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Postby mibias » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:58 pm

It isn't a rule that you have to vote, right? Just in case, my vote goes to mibias
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Postby jelco » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:52 pm

March 3rd, 2009 - 10:02 PM
CERN, Meyrin, Switzerland
Entrance B

The guards have just been informed of the imprisonment of Dr MaximusBrood, and with that news they decide that the day has ended. The last people of the night are allowed to pass through, after which they obey the new security protocol. The main entrance closes - which it does rarely - and the nightly patrol schedules are handed out. They may not be scientists, they know very well how important it is to keep tight security right now.

It is now Night. Day will probably start in 10 hours or so, when I've woken up again next morning. :P

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Postby jelco » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:33 pm

March 4th, 2009 - 7:17 AM
CERN, Meyrin, Switzerland
Entrance A

Protesters are gathering this morning. ADA supporters are asking for the LHC never to go online at all, shouting for the release of the scientists locked up in the Computer Centre right now. As the guards tell them that they will have to sit out every day like the one that just started, and ultimately decide to call the police which forcefully disperses the crowd.

It is now Day. Sorry for the late start, I overslept a bit. :P Day will end in 30 hours, more or less.

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Postby zach » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:09 pm

I am at a loss.

What do we do? How can we have any indication wh-- oh. The specials.

*waits - a little less patiently, apparently*
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Postby mibias » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:22 pm

Here's hoping somebody is making a grand pl*n, because i have no idea how we solve this
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Postby Shwart!! » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:30 pm

At some point, we'll need to start sharing key data. I don't look forward to giving the Evils our information, but we will have little choice...

Either way, I now formally accuse [retracted] Ace Rimmer. For reasoning, see what I was saying yesterday.

EDIT: Plan time.
The Vigilante should reveal himself. This will have no negative effect, other than someone else being jailed, as he (or she) cannot be EVIL-killed. We will then have a guaranteed good person, who can then coordinate things from that point.

EDIT 2: I hope it doesn't come to this, but if there is no better target that arises, I volunteer to be jailed by the Vigilante, in lieu of a possible special.

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Postby bert_the_turtle » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:49 am

Well, right now, the specials don't know too much, either. We certainly can expect them to take more influence over time, but we should try to give them something to work with by the usual semi-random finger pointing :)

Oh, yesterday's theory, right. I was just curious what shinygerbil, LLamaBoy and RabidZombie would do. If you remember, LLamaBoy voted for shinygerbil randomly on day 1, was accused of that by Max, who then was accused by RabidZombie. It didn't look like a standard day one voting chain or indirect revenge voting; I rather suspect the usual one bad guy voting for the other. Day 2, RabidZombie and LLamaBoy reversed their position; they accused each other a bit, LLamaBoy eventually jumped on the bandwagon, while RabidZombie stayed off. Shinygerbil kept quiet, which I'll probably use against him later at the first suspicious actual move, provided he doesn't get eliminated before that. RabidZombie raised some interesting questions, and his vote didn't look like an attempted save (too late for that). So my vote goes to LLamaBoy (retracted) unless looking over my notes, which I stupidly left at work, gives any new insights.

I really don't think sharing information about our keys with anyone but a confirmed good guy is a good idea; there just is nothing we can do with this info, being unable to swap freely, but BASIC will know better who they can swap with for profit. I gave a list of keys most worth keeping already; if you don't have one of those, volunteer to exchange with the prisoner (not all at once, obviously. That also reveals your keys, or at least their value.)

Regarding the bit about the Vigilante stepping up just to reveal himself, well, let's just say I learned my lesson about constructing identified humans. They can be a powerful force if they come up naturally, but pl*ning them into existence mostly ended in failure.
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Postby Mas Tnega » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:59 am

bert_the_turtle, because he won't say SPARK.

And if you think that's dumb, bear in mind that this game only really has behind the scenes stuff and stupid incriminating actions available for your consideration, and I'm sure I can guess which one you'd rather me do.
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Postby Shwart!! » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:08 am

bert_the_turtle wrote:I really don't think sharing information about our keys with anyone but a confirmed good guy is a good idea; there just is nothing we can do with this info, being unable to swap freely, but BASIC will know better who they can swap with for profit. I gave a list of keys most worth keeping already; if you don't have one of those, volunteer to exchange with the prisoner (not all at once, obviously. That also reveals your keys, or at least their value.)

Regarding the bit about the Vigilante stepping up just to reveal himself, well, let's just say I learned my lesson about constructing identified humans. They can be a powerful force if they come up naturally, but pl*nning them into existence mostly ended in failure.


But why not combine these ideas?
There is little we can do, without a 'confirmed good guy'; however, if one appears and we give them the key data, then events can begin.
I'm not creating much of a plan here; I do, however, know that we need a leader before it's too late.

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Postby MikeTheWookiee » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:53 am

For the whole holier-than-thou "I-vote-for-me!" and "I volunteer to get locked up" attitude, I'm going to go with Shwart!!. Almost as if you're daring us to do it.

On letting everyone know keys, I think bert has this one - this will only give the nutters more information. I think that one of their plans will be to gather information on who has what, so we'd only be doing their work for them.
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Postby vanarbulax » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:20 am

I agree, Shwart!! seems to be placing himself in harm's way as a clever way to avoid it. (If that makes any sense)
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Postby LLamaBoy » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:07 am

bert_the_turtle wrote:Day 2, RabidZombie and LLamaBoy reversed their position; they accused each other a bit, LLamaBoy eventually jumped on the bandwagon, while RabidZombie stayed off.
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RabidZombie raised some interesting questions, and his vote didn't look like an attempted save (too late for that).


This will probably come off as defensive, but meh.

The only reason I voted for Maximus was due to the considerable majority of voters having chosen him too (7 of 12 at the time of my post), so voting otherwise would have been a wasted vote; Also, we still had no idea or indication of who might be working against us (or at least, I didn't). Additionally, my vote came late cause of work as well as wanting to see some kind of dialogue in the thread.

Also, RabidZombie's comment on my behaviour has no merit, I was merely sharing my thoughts and suspicions, not trying to sway anyone. Much like you've just done (minus the vote) :P

Now, as for suspicions, I see a few groups that might be in league with each other, but I'm really not sure which might be normal people and which hippy technophobes.

I'll tentatively vote for Kunshu, allowing for a possible change later on today.
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Postby bert_the_turtle » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:24 am

Shwart!! wrote:But why not combine these ideas?
There is little we can do, without a 'confirmed good guy'; however, if one appears and we give them the key data, then events can begin.
Yes. By all means, once there is a confirmed good guy, rally behind him. Of course, that's also the place where the bad guys are hiding.
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Postby Feud » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:13 pm

bert_the_turtle

Why you ask? The Seer told me so.
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Postby bert_the_turtle » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Ah yes. Of course. The Fake Seer move. I didn't expect it this early. Unfortunately, at this time, I'm unable to defend against it with anything but a simple "he's wrong". A counterattack is also futile; I rather suspect Feud is just being used. Good news is that I'm not really that important; you should get by fine without me, even if you believe Feud's claim for now and lock me up just to be on the safe side.

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