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BALLISTICS CHART here!!

Postby Radiant Caligula » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:20 pm

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DEFCON: Everybody Dies
>>> BALLISTICS CHART<<<
by Emperor Radiant Caligula
v1.0 (18/11-06)


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EXPLANATION:

I placed 5 silos on each continent – 1 dead center, and 1 North/East/South & West.
I then fired the silos to the center silo on each continent.

I did this to generalize the flight times. So you won’t find detailed flight times from the European western silo to NYC f.ex. This is supposed to be a reference chart you can use to time your attacks and show if your “Victory timer” launches will impact or not…

The first column displays launches made from all the center silos
targeted at other continents.

Note that the trajectory list cancels each other out, i.e. center->center flights only needs to be measured once (F.ex: RUSS<->ASIA)

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CENTER TO CENTER LAUNCHES:
(all values in minutes except the NAVAL chart)*
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SA<->NA--->11
SA<->EUR------>15
SA<->RUSS------->20
SA<->ASIA----------->25
SA<->AFR---->14
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NA<->EUR---17
NA<->RUSS---->21
NA<->ASIA-------->24
NA<->AFR------->23
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EUR<->RUSS--->5
EUR<->AFR------>7
EUR<->ASIA------->12
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AFR<->RUSS--->9
AFR<->ASIA------>11
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RUSS<->ASIA--->9
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*The in-game clock was used for measuring…

These times are ESTIMATES, meaning that they are mostly correct,
But keep in mind the placement of the silos and the universal targets.

Time it takes to launch 10 nukes from silo starting in Air Defense Mode: 20 mins

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SILO LAUNCHES - NORTH/EAST/SOUTH/WEST TO CENTER:
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NA->EUR--->N:26**…/E:13…/S:18… /W:22
NA->RUSS-->N:24…./E:16…/S:22… /W:25***
NA->ASIA-->N:17.…/E:24…/S:28… /W:24
NA->AFR--->N:28…./E:16…/S:20… /W:24
NA->SA---->N:20…../E:10..../S:9..... /W:14
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SA->NA----->N:9..... /E:14… /S:17 /W:9
SA->EUR---->N:14.. /E:13…./S:22 /W:18
SA->RUSS--->N:27. /E:16… /S:25 /W:21
SA->ASIA--->N:36.. /E:40… /S:30 /W:44
SA->AFR---->N:14 ../E:11… /S:18 /W:17
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EUR->RUSS--->N:3…. /E:2…. /S:6…. /W:(UK):7
EUR->AFR---->N:9….. /E:7…. /S:5…. /W:8
EUR->NA----->N:17…. /E:20… /S:18.. /W:15
EUR->SA----->N:18…. /E:19… /S:15.. /W:14
EUR->ASIA--->N:11… /E:19… /S:12.. /W:14
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AFR->EUR----->N:3…. /E:9…. /S:14…./W:7
AFR->RUSS---->N:5… /E:8…../S:15… /W:11
AFR->SA------>N:14… /E:18… /S:8…. /W:8
AFR->ASIA---->N:11... /E:7…../S:15… /W:17
AFR->NA------>N:19… /E:26… /S:25… /W:15
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RUSS->EUR----->N:9…. /E:25… /S:11… /W:3
RUSS->ASIA---->N:6…. /E:15… /S:3…. /W:9
RUSS->AFR----->N:12… /E:25… /S:11... /W:8
RUSS->NA------>N:25… /E:12… /S:27… /W:20
RUSS->SA------>N:36…. /E:22… /S:36… /W:42
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ASIA->RUSS----->N:12…. /E:16…. /S:9…. /W:4
ASIA->EUR------>N:12….. /E:18…. /S:13…/W:5
ASIA->NA------->N:27…… /E:24… /S:29… /W:22
ASIA->AFR------>N:12…… /E:16… /S:8…. /W:4
ASIA->SA------->N:26…… /E:30…. /S:23… /W:17
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** The northern NA silo was placed in Alaska, the western in L.A.

*** The nukes from other continents were always aimed at the center except
when I fired at Russia. When shooting at Russia I used Moscow as target because most nukes will statistically impact closer to this spot than the Russian center silo…

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NAVAL travel time chart:
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SUBS………….…Moscow--->Cape Horn (SA): 2hrs 40mins
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CARRIERS….......Moscow--->Cape Horn (SA):1hr 50mins
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SUBS………….…India--->New York C: 2hrs 35mins
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CARRIERS……...NYC--->India: 1hr 45mins
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SUBS………….…Cape Horn (SA) --->Tokyo: 2hrs 15mins
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CARRIERS…...…Cape Horn (SA) --->Tokyo: 1hr 30mins
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CARRIERS…...…Tokyo--->Iceland: 2hrs 24mins
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SUBS………….....Tokyo--->Iceland: 3hrs 31mins
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SUBS………….…Tokyo--->Los Angeles: 1hr 13mins
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CARRIERS…...…Tokyo--->L.A.: 49 mins
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SUBS………….…NYC--->Moscow: 1hrs 39mins
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CARRIERS…...…L.A--->NYC: 2hrs15mins
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SUBS................…Svalbard--->The Bering Strait: 2hrs 27mins
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SUB MRBM’s flight time at maximum range: 7 ½ mins
Time it takes to launch 5 nukes from sub starting in passive sonar mode: 10 mins
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PLANES:
A bomber's maximum range(A to B): 46mins
Bomber's maximum range incl. SRBM's combat range hit (launching nuke at the end of the line): 50mins
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Fighter maximum range: 7 1/2 mins
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Placement of silos:

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Some typos may occurre, butt I bellieve thhe listt iiis fairly acccurate - ått leasth æccuratte ENOUGH ;) he he

erm...

Hope you appreciate the chart and that it will come in handy for expert players and serious nukers.

Or if you just like to play around with nuclear weapons. Hey, why not give
an Atomic Bomb to your kid for christmas? Every child should have a nuke!:

http://www.fat-pie.com/latestmodel.htm
...

Greetings from Rome
Radiant Caligula[/img]
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Re: BALLISTICS CHART here!!

Postby lukasbradley » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:27 pm

Great work.

Radiant Caligula wrote:http://www.fat-pie.com/latestmodel.htm


Fun cartoon. If it were made with an American slant, one of the commentators would have said "Nuclear weapons don't kill people, children who launch nuclear weapons kill people."
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Postby caranthir.pkk » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:10 am

SUB MRBM’s flight time at maximum range: 7 ½ mins
Time it takes to launch 5 nukes from sub starting in passive sonar mode: 10 mins


Thats interesting information. So 17 1/2 minutes if you wanna have every single sub-nuke to arrive at destination ;)
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Postby Trident » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:59 pm

and while your taking your time to decypher this list it's already to late.
sorry man but i just like to keep it simple, it's worked so far.
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:39 pm

It's not like I'm keeping this chart open all the time, but some of the flight times have won me many battles. I see lots of players out there launching way too late or even to soon.
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:35 pm

bumping for the good of mankind (or the exact opposite :wink: )
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Postby 0mnicide » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:04 pm

It would be hardcore if somebody tested travel times from and to every major city and likely silo placement area, individually, and programmed a simple calculator with that data. Basically you'd have like four dropdown fields to easily select your territory/launch point and enemy territory/target point, and presto. More specific, more accurate, and quicker than wading through this mess of data you have going on here (not to say I don't appreciate the effort that went into it. I just printed your charts).
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:49 pm

0mnicide wrote:It would be hardcore if somebody tested travel times from and to every major city and likely silo placement area, individually, and programmed a simple calculator with that data. Basically you'd have like four dropdown fields to easily select your territory/launch point and enemy territory/target point, and presto. More specific, more accurate, and quicker than wading through this mess of data you have going on here (not to say I don't appreciate the effort that went into it. I just printed your charts).

I agree it's alot of numbers. But having some of the key figures stored in my skull harddrive gives me an edge over newer players. Such as the planes airtime and central flight times is very handy to have in mind when rushing the victory timer in a tight game. I have won countless battles because I simply had the best co-ordination/timing and knew the best routes.

Playing with vets is always a rush to the points anyway so you don't really need it then. But if you end up with a pro showdown, pre-intel provides some comfort. You don't have time to even use a calculator in the heat of battle, knowing f.ex that SA to Asia have the longest flight time shows you your launch window. If you have 50 mins left on the timer and some bombers just in range of Tokyo, that might just win you the game. If you see you won't make it, redirect... I've seen so many noob launches and bomber runs that were completely pointless. If they had skimmed this list they'd know better. ;-)
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Thu May 07, 2009 3:55 am

bump for sfericz
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Postby sfericz » Thu May 07, 2009 3:56 am

Very nice, thanks!
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Thu May 07, 2009 3:58 am

you were right, it's 17 1/2 for sub nukes... forgot it, loooongtime since I made it...
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Postby sfericz » Thu May 07, 2009 4:00 am

No worries, this was a good bump, I added it to the sticky.

If you have anymore be sure to let me know, and I will add it also.
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Postby spooq » Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:37 pm

Apologies for the bump, but if you want a ballastics chart generated, you could write a very very simple bot to do so. It should not be very hard (for someone smarter than me) to work out an algorithm to calculate impact time from that data.
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Postby microchip08 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:57 pm

I know that this is a big bump, but I'm finding this information useful. To make it quicker for me to find the timings, I plotted the naval times (approximately) into a map. The curves are just curves, and are not representational of the actual voyages, although they should be going in the right general direction.

The larger time (in italics) is for submarines, the smaller for carriers.

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Postby microchip08 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:13 am

tllotpfkamvpe wrote:Totally useless and a gigantic bump.


In that case, I apologise unreservedly. I simply thought that, as I found it useful, other people might do.

Sorry.

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