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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:47 am

I was thinking more of creating write up of issues which we seek feedback on and posting it in it's own thread here.
Not including any issues where it's the authors clarification we need of course.

Also I think some of the feedback ones can be closed?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1462
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1357
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2902
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3467 - _alphaBeta_ did you intend to close this one?


Heres what I was writing for the feedback thread.

We need some feedback on bug reports which have been sent into Mantis.
It's important that you make notes(comments) on these mantis bugs if they still occur in the current version of PA.
If you are able to reproduce any of these bugs, then please yell out :)

Platform independent bugs
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1155: Incident Report gone after loading a game?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1338 - Laundry Basket vanishes behind textures
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1708 - Laundry workers do not collect laundry or pass on clean ones to cells.
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2645 - Guards do not escort prisoners to "needs" location from Holding Cells.
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1542 - Workshop prisoners delivering plates unevenly
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2911 - Dogs stored in medical bed permanently if owner(guard) dies.
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1771 - Daily money is not updating correctly
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3128 - Contraband icons displaced after buying land.
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1938 - Prisoner release rate to high? is it lower in current version?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3010 - Truck keeps delivering Metal Plates, does not unload
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2069 - Prisoner equipment stuck in wall - Does this still occur?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=28 - Able to buy/unlock the other staff members in bureaucracy despite having not the money to pay for it.

Mac Specific issues
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3182 - Mac unable to build foundations?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3819 - Mac Continous intake not working?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=230 - Mac Binaries must be signed (GateKeeper)
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby Reef » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:30 pm

If something was reported a long time ago and we ask people to give more information or confirm that this is not happening for them anymore, because we can't reproduce, and they don't reply, then I think we will have to close it at some point. There is a close status "cannot reproduce" which fits this case.

I am working on parsing user notes so that we find duplicate candidates automatically from that etc
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby henke37 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:15 pm

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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mhoram » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:40 pm

Trying to keep the newcoming issues clean:


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4551 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=102
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4560 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4557
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4300 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3649
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4565 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3679
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4567 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4556
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4568 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=494
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4581 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1061
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4576 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4479
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4583 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3590
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4586 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3656
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=298 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1214
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4584 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4310


Duplicate Group:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4337
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2341


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3649 has duplicates (pipes not installed):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1709


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1634 has duplicates (build on wall cross):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1892
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2690


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4332 has childs (Cook AI):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4572
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4563


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4101 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4459
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4575 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4414
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=678 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=126


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4574 related to (Foreman Bottleneck):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3667
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3635


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3916 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1462
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4556 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=45
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3953 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1241
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4570 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=45
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4571 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3743
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4588 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4380
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4566 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4425


can be closed / verified that it works:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2500
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4564 according to submitter
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4577 question ... not a bugreport
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4583 according to submitter


feedback and or close:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1928


feature request with different severity:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4582
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby _alphaBeta_ » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:02 am

mazetar wrote:Also I'd like opinions on this one #2661.
Isn't this more of a feature request?
At least I believe this to happen by design. Considering that it's the easiest way to implement it, avoiding to deal with a ton of issues.
Considering all the existing issues I believe this won't be added before a rework of the whole tool.

I support this being a bug. I'd also support a whole rework of the foundation tool as the parent (Mantis Artifact ID 4525) suggests. Assuming the tool isn't reworked, it's extremely annoying to only be able to construct one portion of a building of irregular shape at a time. The cross example from Reef is a good one.

mazetar wrote:I was thinking more of creating write up of issues which we seek feedback on and posting it in it's own thread here.
Not including any issues where it's the authors clarification we need of course.

I'd keep the commentary specific to feedback threads in Mantis, where it's most useful to the developers. I can't see pointing them to the forums for more information. Announcing the feedback threads on the forums to generate interest doesn't seem so bad, but that will inevitably lead to the discussions taking place right in that thread (same problem). Instead, I'd try drumming up interest in the community jumping on Mantis and filtering on report IDs that have the "feedback" status. Perhaps making this announcement in one of John's threads, or having him make the announcement himself would be best. Anyone reading this: there's 52 report IDs with this status right now, mostly "do you still see this bug" type feedback is requested. Help us out.

Sorry if this sounds all too familiar from our PM discussions. I just have trouble discussing bug report specifics outside of the bug reporting system. :D


I'd close down 1462 and 2902 as the reports were vague to begin with and there's been no actual feedback. I'll leave these to you guys to make the final call as you've been handling them.

I closed 1357 and left word to re-attach the "updaterFollowup" tag. I can't see people opening a new report, since if it turns out to be a real problem the original (lower ID number) report should usually become the master. Not to mention we'll have yet another duplicate on our hands. The tag was necessary since it doesn't look like we can leave notes for closed issues. IV only opened this up for "resolved" it seems. I won't remove my email monitoring from this, so I'll keep an eye on issues like this that I close down.

I resolved 3467 given that the original bug in that report was addressed. I directed further discussion on the newer issue to another report. I always believed in keeping bug reports very specific. A new bug, even if the symptoms are nearly identical, should get a new report. In this case, the Alpha-17 dog typo was pretty clearly addressed by Alpha-18.

mazetar wrote:Heres what I was writing for the feedback thread.

We need some feedback on bug reports which have been sent into Mantis.
It's important that you make notes(comments) on these mantis bugs if they still occur in the current version of PA.
If you are able to reproduce any of these bugs, then please yell out :)

Seems fine to me.

mazetar wrote:On that note, I have flagged more for feedback lately, I will probably do that to many more in the comming days. If they aren't replied to within a reasonable time (2 days), then I will close them as uninformative or duplicates as apropriate.

I'd say we give people up to 5-7 days to respond though. Two days seems pretty fast and could ultimately lead to us re-opening more reports and tracking down more duplicates.

_alphaBeta_ wrote:I'm going to start targeting the laundry (04 on the assignments).

I'm still working the laundry assignment. Some of these feedback report IDs were a result. There's still more to do. Well, there will always be more to do on this I think. :lol:
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:41 am

I do agree with your opinion on keeping it all on mantis, not disputing that.
I've seen several notes saying "feature requests belong on the forums!!", but thats merely their opinion and not a rule?. I would personally like for all feature requests/suggestions to be on mantis as well (with severity feature). As it would enable voting and bring more active users into mantis which would increase feedback.

About the feedback.
I realise that by creating a thread asking for help and telling them to search for feedback bugs and help out, we will get discussions on the forums, but we could steer issue related talk to mantis by reminding them that there is where it counts. I will write instructions on using the search filter to find feedback issues which may help get people to use mantis them selfs :p

Oh, and I believe I didn't get to finish updating issues listed earlier so I will go do that when I get home in 30minutes.
If anyone is working on it already, please post about it :)
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby xander » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:28 am

mazetar wrote:I do agree with your opinion on keeping it all on mantis, not disputing that.
I've seen several notes saying "feature requests belong on the forums!!", but thats merely their opinion and not a rule?

The original announcement of the tracker from IV seemed to indicate that the tracker was meant for bugs and that the forums were meant for feature requests and other suggestions. Since then, the tracker has filled with redundant bugs, since there has been little moderation (thankfully, this seems to be changing). With so much redundancy with only bugs going to the tracker, it seemed wise to attempt to keep feature requests to the forum so as not to add more redundant crap. If the devs are now wanting and expecting feature requests on the tracker, I am more than happy to cease directing people to the forum to post such requests.

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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:38 am

I've finished processing the issues listed by Mhoram in his 2 posts above.
And I did process Henke's post as well.

29 bugs closed.


--- Issues listed above this has all been dealt with. ---
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:54 am

Created a new Mother Bug containing 10 issues where the sound/music does not stop.
4601: Issues regarding Sound which does not stop when it should
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mhoram » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:26 am

http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4595 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3469
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4597 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4283
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3578 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3467
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3483 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3240


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4356 has childs (Objects can be used outside of the appropriate room):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3964
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2403


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4598 related to (Dogs kill prisoners):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2935
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3520


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4592 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=395
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4596 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1894
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2102 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2747
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3103 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2174


Related Group (Save and crash):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4589
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2205
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3941
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3612
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=660
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4113
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2710
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2298
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1604
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2029
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1043
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=473
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=495
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=637
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=203


can be closed:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3103 (according to submitter)


feature request with different severity:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=787
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4594
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:56 am

I'm done processing the list above.

I ended up creating a new motherbug:
4607 - Issues regarding Crash when saving / auto saving
There's now 21 issues in that group, I suspect some more of them to be duplicates but I've been in mantis for a few hours.. time to sleep :)
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mazetar » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:57 pm

I've been considering creating a mother group for the dead issues for some time now.

I wonder if we could combine all those you mentioned into a single issue report "Corpses sometimes play animations despite being dead" and list all the different cases of this in that report.
But I'm a bit hesitant about doing so, so I may create it as a mother bug instead, and have a grand mother bug of all issues with corpses.

Opinions? :)
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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby henke37 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:12 pm

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Re: Mantis spring cleaning - you can help too!

Postby mhoram » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:01 pm

mazetar wrote:But I'm a bit hesitant about doing so, so I may create it as a mother bug instead, and have a grand mother bug of all issues with corpses.


I think the motherbug method works better here.


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http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4603 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3590
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3190 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=126
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2756 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1382
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3640 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3623
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4612 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4261
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4610 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2624
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3178 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3105
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4615 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3617
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3802 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3627


Duplicate Group (Crash on Prisoner Release):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3996 <- best description
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3615 <- first report
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3758
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3690
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3639


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=311 has duplicates (No Route):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3637
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3632
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3090



http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3590 has duplicates (All Rooms Booked):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3611
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3621


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4459 has childs (Text):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1259
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3093
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4617
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2223


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4616 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4332
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4619 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1737


Related Group (Game Speed):
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3401
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3581
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1222


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4602 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1178
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4604 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4523
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4605 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3819
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2682 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4443
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3648 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3627
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3641 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2246
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3631 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1938
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3522 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2303
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3108 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2081
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4098 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1325
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1314 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=191
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1290 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1287
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4038 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3614


can be closed / verified that it works:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3110 (according to submitter)
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3100
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1269 (works as intended)


feedback and or close:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3110
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1320
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1315
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1296
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1274
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1250
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1237


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Edited to add:

http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4624 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4264
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4627 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4267
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4628 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3996
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4629 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4428 (same reporter)
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4636 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3492
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1659 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=2344
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1635 duplicate of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3259


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4623 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4545
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4626 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4607
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4631 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4464
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4632 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4607
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4633 child of http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4285


http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4630 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3590
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4631 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4464
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4635 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3877
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4638 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=482
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4642 related to http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4104


can be closed / verified that it works:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=3454 (according to submitter)
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1652 works as intended?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1644 works as intended?


still an issue?
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1676
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=1661


feature request with different severity:
http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=4624

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