Landattack and Defconchange

[JonBellew]

just out of curiosity do any of you know how the DEFCON system worked during the cold war? You don't start a countdown to certain states of DEFCON you change it based on the status of the world. Hence "BRING us to DEFCON 1" I think you should be able to change your DEFCON level like you could in the real world

[yop]

i'm 100% against all your ideas

please expain why your 100% against all his ideas or are you just a mindless fellower.

first a defcon game is pretty short several hours at most, meaning that any landbase units like tanks he is talking about won't be able to go very far
second you don't have land access to the whole world
third at defcon 4 he talks about sending fighters but they won't be able to attack while they can be attacked by sea units, i mean WTF?
fourth And even though you might not like this idea: I still like the basics of my ideas and i would like to see some of it ingame , yeah right...
fifth I like the game as it is atm and I think a vast majority do like it
Is that enough or I'm still a mindless follower?

[Dunblas]

just out of curiosity do any of you know how the DEFCON system worked during the cold war? You don't start a countdown to certain states of DEFCON you change it based on the status of the world. Hence "BRING us to DEFCON 1" I think you should be able to change your DEFCON level like you could in the real world

Did you know only the USA uses a Defcon-system? And that the Defcon ingame is a countdown? and that the USA probably still uses it today? and you should make your own topic about this?

Is that enough or I'm still a mindless follower?

I choose both of them

[Mclucky]

mmm, to be honest, I like the idea of having ships be able to (at a reasonably short range) bombard your coastal stuff. Problem is though, it really wouldn't do much, I can't see the justification otherwise than it looking pretty cool.

Unless the bombardment had nothing but a "suppression" effect, silos wouldn't be able to fire nukes (but still fire AA), air bases couldn't launch fighters or bombers, radar dishes wouldn't work. Could be interesting as a mod but not as a core change to the game.

Things about land-based units though, unless everyone sprinted as fast as an olympic athlete they wouldn't get very far, even by drivingand then going on foot. Then there's the whole logistical nightmare of the terrain, would going through the himalayas slow down your armour?

DEFCON is primarily a game about nuking the hell out of innocent people. I like it that way.

[Daxx]

just out of curiosity do any of you know how the DEFCON system worked during the cold war? You don't start a countdown to certain states of DEFCON you change it based on the status of the world. Hence "BRING us to DEFCON 1" I think you should be able to change your DEFCON level like you could in the real world

Oh dear, I think you've missed the point of the countdown. So what prevents people from switching to DEFCON 1 straight away and nuking the crap out of everyone in the first minute or two?

This is a game, not a simulation. Setting your own DEFCON levels would not be fun.

[blackwhitehawk]

i'm 100% against all your ideas

please expain why your 100% against all his ideas or are you just a mindless fellower.

first a defcon game is pretty short several hours at most, meaning that any landbase units like tanks he is talking about won't be able to go very far
second you don't have land access to the whole world
third at defcon 4 he talks about sending fighters but they won't be able to attack while they can be attacked by sea units, i mean WTF?
fourth And even though you might not like this idea: I still like the basics of my ideas and i would like to see some of it ingame , yeah right...
fifth I like the game as it is atm and I think a vast majority do like it
Is that enough or I'm still a mindless follower?

thats enough i just wanted you to expain your self in stead of just saying something sucks in 1 sentuce =)

[s1w]

game is made as it should be: global, quick and not to much philosophy. Including land units - not mentioning that this idea is beyond main concept of the game - would make the clarity of the map dirty, and much biger latency on servers.

it is like.. i play chess for a long time and it become boring me so i found an idea to include new figures into game.. lol. Not important is quantity of pawns, but to use the best strategy u can imagine using availible elements. Chess is 6000 - 8000 years old, many people loose their life for it while that game has only 32 figures..

[blackwhitehawk]

game is made as it should be: global, quick and not to much philosophy. Including land units - not mentioning that this idea is beyond main concept of the game - would make the clarity of the map dirty, and much biger latency on servers.

it is like.. i play chess for a long time and it become boring me so i found an idea to include new figures into game.. lol. Not important is quantity of pawns, but to use the best strategy u can imagine using availible elements. Chess is 6000 - 8000 years old, many people loose their life for it while that game has only 32 figures..

6000-8000 years for 31 figures think how much defcon could do if it had 32 figures to=) right now it only has 5 attacking units

[xander]

6000-8000 years for 31 figures think how much defcon could do if it had 32 figures to=) right now it only has 5 attacking units :wink:

Actually, if the analogy is to be followed faithfully, Defcon has 36 naval units, 6 silos, 7 RADAR, 4 airbases, 80 fighters, 44 bombers, and more than 100 nukes per player. Those 32 chess figures are 16 pawns, 4 knights, 4 bishops, 4 rooks, 2 queens, and 2 kings.

xander

[Dunblas]

game is made as it should be: global, quick and not to much philosophy. Including land units - not mentioning that this idea is beyond main concept of the game - would make the clarity of the map dirty, and much biger latency on servers.

it is like.. i play chess for a long time and it become boring me so i found an idea to include new figures into game.. lol. Not important is quantity of pawns, but to use the best strategy u can imagine using availible elements. Chess is 6000 - 8000 years old, many people loose their life for it while that game has only 32 figures..

I play Chess too. And although lots of player still play the "normal" version, some players like to play rapid different versions of the game, like Buckhouse and Coin-chess

[Dr. Strangelove]

dunblas. im glad all these people shot down your terrible idea before i even had to dirty my hands.

thanks guys for protecting the sanctity of this wonderful game.

and dunblas, you get an A for effort. you deserve a cookie

[scholt]

I play Chess too. And although lots of player still play the "normal" version, some players like to play rapid different versions of the game, like Buckhouse and Coin-chess

on top you see 4 buttons to set the game speed
and beside that:

Features
Office mode - permits 8 hour games, and DEFCON can be minimised to the Windows taskbar with a double-esc!
Game modes - 5 pre-programmed game scenarios including.
Speed Defcon: It's all over in 15 minutes - instinctive and brutal
Diplomacy: All players start in the same alliance - how long will it last?
Big World: The world is twice as large - for those who like a long game

[GeneticFreak]

i'm 100% against all your ideas

please expain why your 100% against all his ideas or are you just a mindless fellower.

first a defcon game is pretty short several hours at most, meaning that any landbase units like tanks he is talking about won't be able to go very far
second you don't have land access to the whole world
third at defcon 4 he talks about sending fighters but they won't be able to attack while they can be attacked by sea units, i mean WTF?
fourth And even though you might not like this idea: I still like the basics of my ideas and i would like to see some of it ingame , yeah right...
fifth I like the game as it is atm and I think a vast majority do like it
Is that enough or I'm still a mindless follower?

thats enough i just wanted you to expain your self in stead of just saying something sucks in 1 sentuce =)

mommy i can quote a quote that has a quote inside a quote

[yop]

i'm 100% against all your ideas

please expain why your 100% against all his ideas or are you just a mindless fellower.

first a defcon game is pretty short several hours at most, meaning that any landbase units like tanks he is talking about won't be able to go very far
second you don't have land access to the whole world
third at defcon 4 he talks about sending fighters but they won't be able to attack while they can be attacked by sea units, i mean WTF?
fourth And even though you might not like this idea: I still like the basics of my ideas and i would like to see some of it ingame , yeah right...
fifth I like the game as it is atm and I think a vast majority do like it
Is that enough or I'm still a mindless follower?

thats enough i just wanted you to expain your self in stead of just saying something sucks in 1 sentuce =)

mommy i can quote a quote that has a quote inside a quote

really ?

[Dunblas]

and dunblas, you get an A for effort. you deserve a cookie

Thanks you, this is probably the most invented idea for Land-units. If this doesn't work, it will probably never work at all.