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wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:The only way this'll ever be true is if Microsoft actually help and develop .net ability for the said platforms.
I'm assuming they intend to. Correct me if I'm wrong.
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:Compared to? Also note that compile time doesn't matter much, at all. It isn't like we're all running Gentoo and need to compile our applications frequently. The end user will never see a compile. Thus your point is invalid.
(Compared to C++) A convenience for the programmer. This may not be major, but I happen to like it.
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:wwarnick wrote:simplifies many previously tedious processes
GUI, memory management, security, porting to name a few. The fact that .NET saves time isn't even debated. The reduction in coding time is balanced by a reduction in performance. I don't think you'll argue that.
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:wwarnick wrote:reduces coding time significantly without any real decrease in power
Coding time can be better reduced by proper prototyping, coding styles and planning. You might save a few mins here or there by using tools that do things for you, but your time is better saved by proper development styles.
Ah. And proper prototyping, coding styles, and planning cannot be done in .NET?
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:wwarnick wrote:BTW - There are actually areas in which .NET performs better.
Incidently you quielty ommit to name them. Care to?
First off, native code on the whole is inarguably faster. However, though outweighed, there are a few (meaning a few) performance increases in .NET. .NET enables computer-specific optimizations, eliminates indirection to addresses known only at runtime, and has faster heap allocations. That's all I know offhand. There may be a few more, I don't know. Nevertheless, there aren't many. I never said .NET as a whole was faster. However, the performance reduction is very small, and for my purposes insignificant.
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:wwarnick wrote:I personally think it kicks Java in the nuts, but that's just me
Oh cripes, don't get me started on Java...
Meaning you like or dislike Java? Just in case, change my wording from "kicks Java in the nuts" to "I prefer C#".
wwarnick wrote:I'm not sure whether to take your post as friendly discussion or on the defense. Either way, I hope this clears this up. I only meant to promote .NET as a Java programmer would promote Java and a Mac user would promote a Mac.
wwarnick wrote:Speaking of Macs, I have yet to hear a Mac/PC comparison that has even verged on technical. The most valid point I've heard to date is that Mac's taskbar better satisfies Fitt's law. Please share any knowledge you have.
wwarnick wrote:To Mac, Linux, and every other OS that a framework is created for.
xander wrote:And there are frameworks for Mac and Linux? Last time I checked, there weren't... It seems to me that .NET it fine for Windows or XBox development (which may be all that you want to do), but worthless for much of anything else.
NeoThermic wrote:Discussion. I'm always open to new languages, and I find the best way to learn about them is by looking like you're attacking a supporter. You hear far more relevent info that way :)
wwarnick wrote:NeoThermic wrote:Discussion. I'm always open to new languages, and I find the best way to learn about them is by looking like you're attacking a supporter. You hear far more relevent info that way :)
Ah. You have a point. Maybe I'll try it with a Mac user sometime.
xander, you freak! Macs are terrible! They're slow, buggy, and they just plain stink!
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