Defcon Demo just wont run (correctally)

[darth nuker]

I keep getting the same errors on my pcs. everytime I try to go play in defcon, it just stops, an error message shows up sayin "defcon has generated errors blah blah blah error report is being written." this is on my win 2000 I tryed to run the game earlier on my xp, still no luck. it happens when ever you click on either
new game
join game
rolling demo
turtorial
the options work fine.
i used to play defcon on my mac, but my mac only had 450 MHz and a 16mb vid ram,ati. it worked fine on my mac.
i have no idea why it happens only on my pcs

dignosis XP:
3.4 GHz intel pentimum 4
128 Nvida FX something something
1 gb ram
lots of hard drive space
internet is broadband (optimum)

dignosis 2000:
2.9 GHz Intel dual prossor
128 ati
2gb ram
moderate space
internet is broadband (optimum)


I got the debug thingy that i see most peeople are puttin in these posts, this is from the 2000, XP not yet.

Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 5011
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 35ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 16ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 26ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : 'xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxx'
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 5009
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received Authentication : xxxxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxx : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY : xxxx-xxxxx-xxxx-xxx-xxxxx-xxx-x-x-x-x-
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
CLIENT : Disconnected
EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY

[frenchfrog]

I guess it's a network problem, have you checked your firewall?

Could you post an ipconfig output:
1) Press the 'Start' button
2) Select 'Run ...'
3) Enter 'cmd' (if on windows XP/2000) or 'command' (if on windows 9x) in the 'Open' textbox.
4) Press the 'OK' button
5) After the command prompt as opened, enter 'ipconfig'
6) Select the output and paste it here. (You may need from the menu that appears when clicking on top left corner icon the 'Edit' -> 'Mark' and 'Edit' -> 'Copy' functions)

[darth nuker]

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.184.36.205
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.184.32.1
not much.
i checked my firewall, it's fine, it allows defcon. still, would it need network access, even with a tutorial or rolling demo? would steam make a difference?

[xander]

...still, would it need network access, even with a tutorial or rolling demo?

Yes, more or less. Defcon uses a server/client setup whenever you play a game. If it is a local game only, it still uses the local loopback, which requires that your firewall be configured properly, and that network traffic can get around your machine (even if the machine is not actually connected to any real network).

xander

[darth nuker]

but my firewall allows defcon, i'm still wondering. the part where it confuses me is that the same exact problem happens in 2 different computers.

[frenchfrog]

Do you have the same anti-virus or anti-spyware or firewall or .... on the 2 computers?

[darth nuker]

... well kind of. I have CA Security suite or something. i get it free with the internet from my isp. it has anti virus, spyware detector, firewall, all sorts of stuff, though sometimes it bothers me when every time i play a newly installed game that needs to connect to the internet, they pop up a window asking to allow or deny. I am SURE i didn't press deny by accident when running the game. I even checked my firewall advanced confg.

I think i might have the solution, well, not entirely.

I know xp has its own security suite, or "Security Center".
It too has a firewall, and it says on the bottom of firewall that
"Note: two or more firewalls running at the same time can conflict with each other."
/\< if this is true, why didnt it happen before? i played internet games and it wasn't the problem. this is where the "not entirely"comes in.
same thing happens in 2000, 2000 doesn't have its own security center, which is why XP became so popular (and its stylish colors)
man, im running out of ideas here

i wonder... but its gonna be risky, to turn off all the firewalls and see if defcon runs...

[Ace Rimmer]

Believe it or not, the odds of somebody just waiting around for you to turn off your firewall and wreak havoc with your PC is slim.

*pictures Dick Dastardly waiting just outside in The Mean Machine with a laptop*

[darth nuker]

well, it didnt work, but now i got another problem, (no, dick didnt hack my computer) now CA thinks that i didnt install my firewall after i disabled it, enev though i re installed it and it shows up in the start menu, and works, but thats minor.

Defcon STILL DOESNT WORK, EVEN AFTER DISABLING FIREWALLS! WHATS GOING ON!?!??!?


I tried port forwarding, cuz if you have guessed, i have a hub that connects to my modem, so 2 computers can go online at the same time. still didn t work,

XP debug thingy (finally)
Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 5011
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 41ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 18ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 30ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : 'X on the good ship X-X lolipop, it s a sweet trip X-X to the candy shop X-X where bon bons play X-X on the sunny beach of pepperment bay X' < i was bored
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 5009
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received Authentication : DEMOCT-x-x-x-x : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY : xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxx-xxx
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Sound System regained window focus
Sound System regained window focus
Disconnected from MetaServer
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 5009
CLIENT : Disconnected
EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY
/\ SAME ERROR, WAHTS GOING ON?!??!??


XP's ip config\/
Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.184.34.210
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.184.32.1

[frenchfrog]

Is there a blackbox.txt file? Are you able to see the servers list?

[darth nuker]

dont see any blackbox txt file, and when i click on join game, the server browser box pops up (as it should) and it says retrieving servers list, and then the xp ( defcon has encountered an error, would you like to send a report.. blah blah, instead of the annoying blue screen of death). quits defcon, and I sit there confused.

is life trying to mess with me???

I noticed something...

join game : EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY
new game: EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY
tutorial: CLIENT : Disconnected
rolling demo: CLIENT : Disconnected
these are the last lines of the debug reports when i clicked on each of these buttons.
join and new game are the same, but tutorial and rolling demo seemed to have no errors, as if defcon just gave up trying to run. I've never been more confused then the end to No Way Out!
http://forums.introversion.co.uk/defcon/viewtopic.php?p=57181< similar problem?

All the other people that i searched with keywords CLIENT : DISCONNECTED have more under it, why does mine stop there? I also dont see my ip adre .... wait. i think i got the solution. I MAY GOT IT!@!!!!!


ok, it STILL DIDNT WORK!!!!!!!! BUT!, i think im getting some where. what i did was that because i was connected to 2 computers at a time, its obvious that both must share the same ip address, but because they are different computers, it somehow conflicted with defcon. so, now, i find a new debug you can now see, because i disconnected the other computer, turned the modem back on, and now i see my ip address.


XP debug (join game)

Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 1232
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 41ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 18ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 30ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : 'dfdfd-dffddffd-sgrdfh-ghh-sss'
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 1233
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received Authentication : poo : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as pee
Sound System regained window focus
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Started requesting public IP:port for socket 376
Socket 376 identified as public IP 24.184.34.210:1232
Authentication HashToken set to -2061158499

XP debug (rolling demo)

Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 1256
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 42ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 19ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 30ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : ''
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 1257
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received Authentication : : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY :
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Disconnected from MetaServer
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 1258
CLIENT : Disconnected

XP debug (tutorial)

Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 1273
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 43ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 19ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 31ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : 'hhhhhh'
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 1274
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received Authentication : gfgfgfgffgfggfg : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY : fgfgfgfgfgfgfgfgf
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
CLIENT : Disconnected

XP Debug (new game)

Defcon 1.43 built Jul 3 2007
Parsing archive main.dat...DONE
WinSock started
Client listening on port 1278
Parsing Coastline data (1776 islands) : 41ms
Parsing International data (2753 islands) : 18ms
Parsing City data (2745 cities) : 31ms
Parsing archive sounds.dat...DONE
Authentication key set : 'jgjtbjgjgjgjghg'
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 1279
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Requesting data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : DemoLimits
Received Authentication : hfgjyfgjjjyjj : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY : ghhghhghggh-ghghhgghghg
Requesting data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
Received data from MetaServer : UpdateURL
CLIENT : Disconnected
EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY

[frenchfrog]

join game : EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY
new game: EclRemoveWindow failed on window LOBBY

I think the window is removed twice, it does this for all people, not a problem.



If I was to point fingers, I would say it's CA messing around somehow.

[darth nuker]

but i already tried disabling firewalls and that didnt work. theres is NO way to totally turn off CA.

Started requesting public IP:port for socket 376
Socket 376 identified as public IP 24.184.34.210:1232
Authentication HashToken set to -2061158499
/\ the hash token is supposed to be negative?

[frenchfrog]

I guess the hash token in an unsigned int printed as a signed int.

[darth nuker]

huh?