Mog's accordion_MAD™

[Schubdüse]

(This post is about a match in Generalfeldmarschall von Roten Knopfs 1vs1 tourney)

1 vs 1
Round One
Mogwai [135] - BATTLETRON [-22]

I know, most of you know Mogwai's style. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention to this match:
http://simamo.de/~dedcon/servers/RBT/2010/01/26/0825/recording_rbt1_Tue_Jan_26_08_25_19_UTC_2010.zip

It was just amazing to watch how Moggy managed to keep his ships in formation. Are you playing all the time with "Orders" on?
AND: Please notice what happend at 1:35h (at least somewhen around this time). I would like to call that move "Mog's accordion (MAD™)".
I won't tell you about it, because you have to see it for yourself.

/me gone to train MAD...

(And Tronny, this not a post in order to show you up...)

[Nightwatch]

Didnt watch the recording, just general observations of seeing Mogwai play...

While Mogwais naval style is certainly beautiful, it also make you predictable and somewhat inflexible in naval engagements.
Look at my naval style to compare, its almost the opposite of Mogwai. Its (somewhat) controlled chaos.
But it has some advantages in certain situations when compared to what i would describe as, a doctrin of beauty.
Its hard do describe, but i give it a try.
My fleet formations are more erratic, the units are much more independent than in a forced, tight formation. Therefore im able to adapt quicker to the enemys movement and attack angle.
The disadvantage is, Mogwais style presents him with a extremely effective field of fire on a certain axis. Mine doesnt to that extent.
If he's able to catch the enemy on that axis he will win.
But if he looses the initiative or gets wrong he would have more problems to adapt then i have with my formation.
I tend to see my naval force as a formation of independent units, not as a single living body. I manoeuvre my units independently, at least within certain parameters.
I don’t get that impression when watching Mogwai play.
Personally I cant imagine playing like him. Simply because I cant do it (my mircomanagement sucks when it comes to styled formations) and I would feel to inflexible to counter unexpected events. Just thinking generally about heavy naval nuking would give me nightmares.
But it works for him and its beautiful to watch, so keep it up

[trickser]

In the 1st Mogwai vs Battletron game there was a remarkble action of Mogwai, dunno if you are talking about this. Normally Mogwai always keeps his ships together in a line formation. But this time he divided bs from cas and drove a brutal sea-nuking attack, which reached the last corner of Atlantic, where Tron was hiding his fleet. It was beautiful.

Btw, a good way to beat Mogwais line formation, is imo to just pick up the cas (micro your planes), because they are not much behind the bs, there is no added difficulty to it.

[Nightwatch]

I was talking generally, as i said, i didnt watch the recording.
But i will do so now, it reads interesting. Although, seanukes and myself, we will never like each other.

[Nightwatch]

Well, watched it.
No so impressed with the nuking part. It worked because tron messed up his defense.
The key to avoid naval nuking is movement and fighter support.
He failed both ways.
A Fourth of his fleet got nuked because they were sitting dead in the water on top of each other.
One lucky hit out of how many in the first volley? Twenty? Need it explain that equation??
Tron allowed himself to be trapped on his own coast. Without heavy silo cover (which he hadnt) its an ideal situation to get nuked bad.
And that is what happend in the sescond volley.
Also consider that Tron was way down when it came to deployable fighters and air defense (no bbs at that point!).
Essentially, Mogwais second volley killed some 9 empty carriers without any support. If you compare the deployable firepower of both fleets, Mog was ahead big time.
Save the nuke next time and attack conventional - same result.

[Mogwai]

Yes, im aware of the weakness of my formations and im actully a bit supprised it havent been exploited more often.
However as Nightwatch point out, i find that it often squeezes out some extra firepower in the inital fights especially before defcon 1
hits. It's also for me easyer to micromange all that's going on the field this way especially the fighters, witch most of the times gives
me the upper hand.
I've experimented with other setups such as the panzer but am unable to use them anyway near the capacity of what the line does for me.
The line sure takes more time to adjust to the environment, but for me i find the time is worth takeing.

However my biggest weakness is probably my arrogance and steamroll mentality witch has cost me alot of ships

And yes to play the line like this Schüb, you need Orders on at all times

Edit: Yes Night my naval nukeing is not up to scratch, if i put it that way.