Let subs ping once before surfacing?

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Postby Nugas » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:59 am

But having said that I certainly have to agree with bert on this one, it would seem logical that a real sub would ping the ara it's about to surface at before revealing itself (although saying that, can't subs use hydrophones to hear moving surface vehicles?)


Speaking as someone who used to be on subs as a radioman - no. When you come up to periscope depth the sonar guys should already have an idea of the contacts in the area. Periscope goes up for a quick look around and when it does you also get approximate ranges, bearings, etc. to any radar contacts. (Not radar that you send out, radar that's intercepted from surface ships or aircraft.) Then you could surface. Although 99.9% of the time you'd just sit at periscope depth and do everything through the scope anyway - surfacing is every bit as stupid as pinging or transmitting radar. Unless you're going into port. :)

Anyway, like the guy above me said, what a real sub would do hardly matters anyway. Besides, if a real boomer was launching they wouldn't be surfacing at all.
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Postby Hyperion » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:37 pm

Nugas wrote:
Anyway, like the guy above me said, what a real sub would do hardly matters anyway.


Woo Hoo! :D
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Postby Chimaera » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:33 pm

Nugas wrote:
*snip*


Wow.

Did you serve in the US Navy? Or the Royal Navy? (or the Russian navy, or, I don't know, the Indian Navy?)
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Postby xander » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:33 am

Hyperion wrote:
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[quote="Chimaera wrote:[quote="Nugas"]

Why can't you people quote!

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Postby Nugas » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:14 am

US. (And sadly still am.) I should also mention that I was on fast attacks, not boomers.
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Postby NeoThermic » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:23 am

Nugas wrote:US. (And sadly still am.) I should also mention that I was on fast attacks, not boomers.


Posting from a satellite communications system. Interesting...

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Postby martin » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:48 am

Nugas wrote:When you come up to periscope depth the sonar guys should already have an idea of the contacts in the area.


but the subs in defcon don't actually have passive sonar :?
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Postby bert_the_turtle » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:54 am

That's only almost right :) When an enemy sub in active sonar mode comes close enough to one of your subs in passive mode to detect it and fire at it, your sub will fire back.
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Postby martin » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:34 pm

bert_the_turtle wrote:That's only almost right :) When an enemy sub in active sonar mode comes close enough to one of your subs in passive mode to detect it and fire at it, your sub will fire back.


Ok, they have some form of passive - but with real passive surely they should have a chance of detecting surface ships moving nearby?
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Postby bert_the_turtle » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:29 pm

Yeah. I was just nitpicking. They should at least be able to catch a carrier's active sonar and be able fire back, but they don't (for balancing reasons, I assume).

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