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Postby Xocrates » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:31 pm

DueAccident wrote:The thing is, Cairo gets leveled what ever you do...so why waste resources?


So they waste even more resources :D
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Postby adam_the_scouser » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:35 am

I was playing in a 2v2 the other night and felt it relevant to post about it here. I was Russia and my ally was Asia against SA and Africa. Random territories of course.

Now the guy who controlled Africa was a very good player but I have decided that unless Africa is allied with Asia or Russia it doesn't stand a chance. This guy defended very well but because he did so well he suffered for it by getting mass attacked. He finished last with a minus score and our alliance won. Now we didn't attack him like that cos we are noobs but because we needed my silos to attack SA. Problem was his silos were shooting down my nukes so he got mass attacked.

Therefore I have come to the conclusion that unless Africa and subsequently Cairo are allied with one of the eastern superpowers...defending and winning in more than a two player game is nigh on impossible.
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Postby Wasgood » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:56 am

I tell the people to evacuate and go to South Africa.
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Postby Chucko » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:34 am

Yeah Africa always gets raped in 6 player games unless it has good allies.
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Postby Hyperion » Wed May 09, 2007 9:10 pm

Best way to defend cairo is to equalise. Each continent having their own priority target. Tokyo. Moscow. New York. London and secondary targets. simply level the playing field, don't worry about losing your priority target as long as you get another.

Africa is my favourite continent also. Europe is my worst.
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Postby Bunnet » Tue May 15, 2007 9:44 am

You would get -60 if you nuked it yourself not -40, -1 for each death as well as collateral. So it really isn't worth wasting resources on. I say leave it for dead.
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Postby Smiling Buddha » Tue May 15, 2007 7:02 pm

Bunnet wrote:You would get -60 if you nuked it yourself not -40, -1 for each death as well as collateral. So it really isn't worth wasting resources on. I say leave it for dead.


I thought you only got the collateral penalty, and no death penalty?
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Postby xander » Tue May 15, 2007 7:07 pm

Smiling Buddha wrote:
Bunnet wrote:You would get -60 if you nuked it yourself not -40, -1 for each death as well as collateral. So it really isn't worth wasting resources on. I say leave it for dead.


I thought you only got the collateral penalty, and no death penalty?

No. Try it for yourself. At the end of the game, you are, basically, given 1 point for every megasurvivor you have (or -1 point for every megadeath -- these two measures are equal), and -2 points for every self inflicted megadeath. Thus, nuking your own city will cost you 3 points per megadeath.

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Postby KudrigY » Tue May 15, 2007 9:02 pm

Chucko wrote:Yeah Africa always gets raped in 6 player games unless it has good allies.


LOL, you havent seen good player playing as Africa. IMO well played Africa has same chances for a victory as ussr.

Having good allies will help of course, but every territory can say the same thing. Ok, maybe Africa allied with Asia (all carriers on Indian) is bit hard to match (except eu & ussr), but it is not that decisive.

Spec some pro games, and I will surely agree with my opinion.
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Postby Smiling Buddha » Tue May 15, 2007 9:27 pm

KudrigY wrote:Spec some pro games, and I will surely agree with my opinion.


Unsurprising, really.
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Postby shinygerbil » Tue May 15, 2007 9:50 pm

I nearly pointed that out, but I'm supposed to be revising, not here on the forums. ;)
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Postby countersmurf » Mon May 21, 2007 8:56 am

Any half decent player can hit Cairo without even trying. It's not worth defending.

Cairo is 26% of your population. In this game if you only lose 26% you are doing well. Defend you other cities, and leave it undefended.

To win a game you have to attack! While defence can help, this game is not about defence, forget about cairo!
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Mon May 21, 2007 9:40 am

KudrigY wrote:
Chucko wrote:Yeah Africa always gets raped in 6 player games unless it has good allies.


LOL, you havent seen good player playing as Africa. IMO well played Africa has same chances for a victory as ussr.

Having good allies will help of course, but every territory can say the same thing. Ok, maybe Africa allied with Asia (all carriers on Indian) is bit hard to match (except eu & ussr), but it is not that decisive.

Spec some pro games, and I will surely agree with my opinion.


Said it before and I'll say it again: Africa is scoring king together with Asia if played correctly. Allies? Who needs allies when you can kill'em all? More points to feast on...

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Postby Masaq » Mon May 21, 2007 1:11 pm

I'd agree with that, Africa's in a lovely central position to attack virtually anyone from. If you don't get hit by immediate attacks from SA NA and EU, you're in the perfect position to hit 'em all pretty hard. Works for me, especially in Diplo :D

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