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Adding to the Immersion.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:26 am
by Waylon Sachs
I was thinking about how I enjoyed the general sense of immersion and how personal the uplink experience was when I had an idea.

What if instead of having the "Home" address of 127.0.0.1, it was your real one. So say if the external IP of my computer was 192.184.0.10, It would change a log from being 127.0.0.1 routed to 148.880.904.120 to this: 192.184.0.10 routed to 148.880.904.120.

I'm not sure if the game is flexible enough to change the home address value to your real-world address in all logs.

What do you guys think?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm
by NeatNit
Interesting idea, but don't forget in Uplink you're remotely controlling a gateway. It's not your computer that is used for hacking, it's a remote one.

Also, I have yet to see a good way to discover your external IP (without of course using another server to tell you). In just about every game ever, it only tells you your internal IP.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:07 pm
by Waylon Sachs
You have a point about it not being your computer, but a proxy of sorts.
Plus I couldn't find a way to find my external ip, just the internal ones using ipconfig.

Tweaking my original idea a bit: Is there a way to change your 127.0.0.1 to something else? Like a fake external IP address rather than just being the local host?

The general cannon slipped my mind.
Thanks.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:11 am
by computerquip
When you connect to another server in real life, it's not logged as 127.0.0.1. In real life, this address generally means your local computer and probably has no meaning over the internet. So it doesn't make sense for a server to log that a system with the IP of "127.0.0.1" has established and closed a connection. In real life, this would mean that the server itself made a connection to itself and then closed (although probably not that clear cut).

Also, real IP addresses are limited to 1 byte per section. Thus, the largest IPv4 address possible would be 255.255.255.255. Rather, uplink can have an address with something like 90.912(wtf?).210.150. I really see no reason to keep this system. If the entire world cannot fulfill the maximum amount a 4 byte address can hold, then how the hell is a game with a population of less than probably a few dozen thousand going to fill it up :/. If it's that big of a deal, perhaps IPv6 addresses should be used which are more modern anyways and were even around in 2002 when the game was made.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:20 am
by orillian
The entire world CAN fill the 4 byte ip system. Thats why IPV6 is becoming more main stream.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:00 pm
by ryacko
The IP addresses ingame should really be hexadecimal.
Easier to type.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:31 am
by orillian
God no.
127.0.0.0/8 format is fine to type ::1/128 and addresses in that block may be shorter, but typing something like 2001:5c0:1000:11::2 just does not have the same appeal somehow.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:45 pm
by ryacko
Pretty sure typing in

a4.00.fa.1b

is alot easier

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:03 am
by NeatNit
orillian wrote:God no.
127.0.0.0/8 format is fine to type ::1/128 and addresses in that block may be shorter, but typing something like 2001:5c0:1000:11::2 just does not have the same appeal somehow.
You somehow confused hexadecimal with IPv6. What time is it?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:49 pm
by orillian
Bacon time.

And yes I did, was way too early, still not sure of that idea though, I suppose it could lead to shorter IPs I guess, or longer depending on if you changed each number or the entire group. Ah why not, a change is a change.