Log Undeleter problems (solved)

[Somerled]

I haven't had any luck on trace missions so far, no matter how I approach them, and it's made me a little suspicious of the log undeleter. Even if I accept about ten minutes after posting, break in and find an obvious log that should lead to the hacker, then trace it back, it always ends at a phone or public access terminal. The last one had me break into a LAN (my first one, yay!). I got into the mainframe, found the most recent access log before the posting, and it went straight to a public access terminal.

The annoying thing is, the undeleter never seems to do anything. Yes, I make sure to always use it. It runs, finishes, but nothing changes. I fire up InterNIC and do a test. I modify one of my own logs then try to undelete it to get back the original. Again nothing!

I'm playing the Steam version, 1.54. And I only see one log undeleter version: level 1.

So what's up? Can I not undelete my own logs, is that why my test failed? If so, is it possible that even ten minutes after posting the bounce chain is already broken on the mission? What else could I be missing?

[mr_anonymous]

I assume that you have read the guide? If not, go do that now. If you have read the guide, you should know that log_undeleter has several versions. Since you made no reference to having the best version, I am going to assume that you don't, and that you need to get that.

[Somerled]

I have read it, and I just double checked it now.

I looked in the software section of the guide and it only lists one version. Well, the entry I'm seeing is:
Log UnDeleter
Cost: 5000c
Size: 1Gq
Recover deleted logs, or restore modified logs, by clicking on them.

The log undeleter I'm using costs 5000c and takes up one Gq. When I click next version, nothing happens, so there's nothing else to buy. Also, the guide kind of implies there's only one version on that page. I could be missing something elsewhere in the guide though. Any ideas?

[orillian]

I just tried running the same test and hit the same problem, although I have not tried it on a mission. I dont know if this is deliberate or not.

[mr_anonymous]

Wow... it clearly has been a long time since I have played. You are correct. There is one version of log_undeleter. There are several versions of log_modifier and log_deleter, which must have been what I was thinking of. Are you running log_undeleter over every log from the time listed? log_deleter will not only recover logs which have been deleted by lower versions of log_deleter, but will also restore logs which have been modified.

[Somerled]

Yes, I did that. And it got very frustrating, heh. But, I may have figured this out.

1) The most recent log before the post time would never undelete, and tracing the bounce chain from there would always lead nowhere, even when undeleting along the whole chain.

2) I still had that last mission open, so on a whim I decided to trace the chain AT the post time, NOT the one a few hours before it. Eventually I got to a point where undelete worked and finished the mission. So if they reported the crime at 18:00 (the post time), but the 18:00 chain led back to the hacker, then the hacker reported his crime?

3) Yeah, I guess the InterNIC test fails regardless. That's nuts.


So everything's in working order then. I guess you don't always trace the most recent chain; sometimes you have to trace the one at the post time (or the two times are so close that they're identical?). I thought I had tried that on another mission, then read it was the wrong way to do it. So much for that.

[orillian]

dont forget that the time when the mission is posted is when the company actually discovered the hack, so the trail could be an hour or more cold by then.

[williewonka]

i have traced a person by using the time AT the hack (or at leased the hack time given by the mission. the problem now is that when i report him it says that he is the guy who got the money but not the guy who performed the hack. so what do i have to do now? im a bit stuck here.

[mr_anonymous]

i have traced a person by using the time AT the hack (or at leased the hack time given by the mission. the problem now is that when i report him it says that he is the guy who got the money but not the guy who performed the hack. so what do i have to do now? im a bit stuck here.

Have you read the guide, which is linked above? What, exactly, are you doing? Which logs are you looking at? Have you used log_undeleter on them? In short, your post does not provide nearly enough information to help you.

[Mas Tnega]

Hint 1: If you're not looking at a Personal Computer at the end of your trace, it's completely and utterly wrong.
Hint 2: If you think that's impossible, you're reading the wrong logs.

[Montyphy]

Hint 1: If you're not looking at a Personal Computer at the end of your trace, it's completely and utterly wrong.

Isn't it at the point you know who did the hack? (providing you followed the correct trail)

[williewonka]

Hint 1: If you're not looking at a Personal Computer at the end of your trace, it's completely and utterly wrong.

Isn't it at the point you know who did the hack? (providing you followed the correct trail)

thats the whole point. i am lookin at a personal computer but the company says thats not the guy. its only the guy who got the money transfered. so now i need his bankaccount but i have only his name. does anyone know how to solve this?

[mr_anonymous]

Have you read the guide, which is linked above? What, exactly, are you doing? Which logs are you looking at? Have you used log_undeleter on them? In short, your post does not provide nearly enough information to help you.

[Montyphy]

Hint 1: If you're not looking at a Personal Computer at the end of your trace, it's completely and utterly wrong.

Isn't it at the point you know who did the hack? (providing you followed the correct trail)

thats the whole point. i am lookin at a personal computer but the company says thats not the guy. its only the guy who got the money transfered. so now i need his bankaccount but i have only his name. does anyone know how to solve this?

What exactly is the type of mission you're doing? (Ideally, post a screenshot) Are you sure it's a trace a hacker mission and not a trace a bank transfer mission? How is it you know he's the one who received the money yet not know what his bank account is? What logs where you looking at in order to find him? (Again, screenshot would be helpful) Finally, how old was the mission when you accepted it?

[williewonka]

answers in order of your questions:
mission: trace a hacker and yes im sure that this is it.
how do i know: the company send me an email: see screenshot below. i looked at the logs wich had the exact time of the hack given in the mission. i read on this forum that that is the right time and not what the guide tells you(just before it.) the mission was not very old when i accepted it (but according to one user on this forum with a lot of experience, that doesn't matter). so i got to a personal computer, but when i send his name i get the following email (see screenshot):



so what do i have to do now?