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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:57 pm

You don't have to know how to program to be a "hacker." You don't even need to know about computers to be a "hacker." You just have to be very interested in some system or environment. :)
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Postby sweaty bob » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:59 pm

Hex22 wrote:I wonder, when people think about "hacking", what do they mean?
And what's the percentage of them that actually knows you have to be a programmer to hack?
Oh, and who was the modem-head who invented 1337?



WTF? your talking aload of shite you don't have to know them things to be l33t h4x0r0r0r0r
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Postby BlueScreen » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:16 pm

surely, by being a l33t h4x0r0r0r0r you prove that you know nothing?

and has this person actually asked his school's sys. admins. if they can unblock these sites? he may even get a reason why they don't want to give access to these sites,
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Postby Disco Stuie_uplink » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:13 pm

Oh, and who was the modem-head who invented 1337?


It evolved over most of the 1980s in BBSs, mostly MSDOS-based ones. A lot came from typos (pwned: o is next to p on qwerty boards, but you already knew that) but most was probably out of a desire for the BBS-inhabitants (aka skriptkiddies) to be different.

I wonder, when people think about "hacking", what do they mean?
And what's the percentage of them that actually knows you have to be a programmer to hack?


Thanks to the media, very few people actually understand that what is thought of as "hacking" is actually "cracking", and that hacking is a perfectly honest buisness. The concept of hacking using programming skills is something I have actually been laughed at by friends for suggesting. It is a completely alien idea to 99.99% of the 1st world population.
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Postby PurEvil » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:44 am

Disco Stuie wrote:
A lot came from typos (pwned: o is next to p on qwerty boards, but you already knew that)....


One thing that really made "pwn" famous was a StarCraft patch that had the familiar typo in it. ("The Computer has pwned PlayerA!"). Not correcting ya, just adding a bit.

TheRealZeroCool wrote:
damn it didn't :( work dose any one else have any idears cos i need it so i can get on sites like cokemusic and my hotmail please help


You don't need it. It's cokemusic, and personal email. You're there to learn, and they probably block it for one (or more) of a few reasons:

A) Personal surfing ties up bandwidth that could be used by students doing research.

B) A student was caught wasting time surfing sites like that.

C) Money. The school/county might have to budget for the bandwidth it uses, and they could be trying to cut back on unnecessary usage. (You didn't think that was a free connection, did ya? Every bit, every page costs your school a little more cash).

D) (For Email) They are making sure you can't email yourself things like porn, illegal files, viruses, etc. I know in my school, if you needed an address for a class, they assigned you one. I had one my senior year. And my email was filtered through the county system.

E) Spyware (or virus/trojan infected sites). It's time consuming to keep a system clean of it, they have to pay someone to do that routine maintanence, and it's probably cheaper to pay for software to block sites like that.

There are more reasons, but these always seem to be at the top of the list. If it's one of these reasons, don't bother asking the sys admin for access, he won't allow it. If you do manage to set up a personal proxy, chances are you'll be caught. It's hard to hide something like that. And if they wanted to make an example of you, they could... easily.
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Postby ReflectingGod » Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:24 am

There's no point trying to explain things rationally to this guy, so don't even waste your time.

He'll just come back like:

OMG i ned c0kemusic and hotmial 4 stuf, and i gonna us my l337 hax0r skillz to do it. help me cos i cant doit myslef.
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Postby Iris » Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:59 pm

Hay susmaryosep. That's the problem of staying too long in your room and watching too many movies. The lack of proper mentorship affects these kids' view of what's happening around them. If Pai Mei was alive..... :)
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Postby Disco Stuie_uplink » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:21 pm

Hay susmaryosep

Bless you.
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Postby Banker » Sun May 02, 2004 1:30 pm

Hahahahahahahaha

"TheRealZeroCool on 6:15 pm on Mar. 16, 2004[br:e6ed0682cf]ii need to know is there a way that you guys can find out what ip adress i am using cos i need it for a major hack"

:shock:

What a dumb one, seriously kid, if u dont even know how to check your own ip...
HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO HACK ANYTHING?!?!
Is this some sort of joke, or is this kid so bad at computers he cant even type a dos command or run a program????

Straight comedy.. :lol:
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Postby Superpig » Sun May 02, 2004 1:49 pm

This thread has reinforced my belief that people should need a license to use a computer. :roll:
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Postby Rkiver » Sun May 02, 2004 1:51 pm

Superpig: That is a law I would love to see enforced across the globe.
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Postby menancer » Sun May 02, 2004 5:51 pm

The most funniest Topic in this forum
I laughed my head off !!!
good one TheRealZeroCool !!
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Postby Disco Stuie_uplink » Mon May 03, 2004 12:01 am

This thread has reinforced my belief that people should need a license to use a computer.


I have been utterly convinced of that for years. It is (yet another) problem that can be attributed to Good Old Mr Gates. If he hadn't created an OS that could be used by most people (windows) instead of command-line systems that you actually had to have half a brain to use, the internet would still be the fun, geek-infested, troll-and-skript-kiddie-free place that it used to be. Mind you, there *were* BBSs back in the 80s....

Edit:

Hahahahahahahaha


Out of interest, was that even mildly funny, or just sad? Real laughter or sarcasm? I just want to know where I stand... :-)
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Mon May 03, 2004 12:17 am

You know if idiots didn't use computers, we would probably still be running 486's with DOS and have 16 bit games. The internet as we know it would not exist and would be coming to us over 14.4K modems. Yea, that'd be brilliant. . . :roll:
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Postby ReflectingGod » Mon May 03, 2004 2:08 am

Hmm...

What we need is a virus to destroy the internet as we know it, and set the progress back 20 years or so....

I think I'll call it Revelation, sounds good, no?
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