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Postby Zellforever » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:30 am

Computer networking science is something that has always fasicinated me, But for the sake of perspective, can someone kinda fill me in on how this stuff is done in the real world as opposed to uplink (and don't worry, I don't plan on trying any of this, I'm not stupid, just intriged as to how this stuff is done in the real world)?  IE bouncing calls, password breakers and the like.   And add examples of some progs, I mean, its hard to believe that thisstuff exsists.  And do corporations realy hire hackers to do their dirty work for them? Its all so cool...


(Edited by Zellforever at 10:49 pm on Jan. 28, 2004)
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Postby Th12t33n » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:33 am

have no clue pimpin, i just love to haxor in the game hehe makeing people deceased by far is the funnest thing =P
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Postby Zellforever » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:37 am

what would be really funny, is if they had short FMV's showing your targets that you make 'deceased' trying to get a credit line or something.
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Postby Long Shoota » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:10 pm

Quote: from Th12t33n on 4:33 am on Jan. 29, 2004[br]have no clue pimpin, i just love to haxor in the game hehe makeing people deceased by far is the funnest thing =P


Well if you had nothing to say on the subject matter, why did you bother posting? Not being hostile, just asking.
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Postby Rkiver » Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:04 pm

Zellforever: While this is a forum about a hacking game, it is not a place that people will just freely give out knowledge regarding "real" hacking, or even admit to knowing it. The best you can do is use google and search for a few sites, or learn how to use UNIX and Linux.
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Postby Darksun » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:18 pm

There are also some books on the subject

I reccomend 'A complete h@ckers handbook' by Dr K

It has some information on the basics of hacking, as well as history and ethics of hacking, other net issues and general computer stuff


As for things in the game reflected in real life, well:

Bouncing can be done to some extent, it involves routing through several shells. Its not like in the game

Password crackers do exist, both dictionary and brute force. However, very few passwords can be cracked one letter at a time, making brute forcing very slow. It's not like in the game

(Edited by Darksun at 9:26 pm on Jan. 29, 2004)
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Postby Me300 » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:05 am

As with most things for the computer, you have to trade realism for playibility.
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Postby Kendo THM » Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:08 pm

Well, hacking into something in real life thats normal security:

- around 1:100000 in getting the password
- real people are more intelligent.
- getting through the security is around 1:10000
- did I forget that if there is tracing, then it will go much faster?
-  If you've just hacked something, I suggest that you throw your pc away as someone is bound to find out.

the sucess rate of getting something good, not getting caught and all that is probably around:

1:100000000000000000000

Or basically nearly impossible.

*and no, the NSA do not exist*
(Nsa is from a film: Public Enemy No. 1 or something)

I wish you a happy time in jail if you try. Although, I don't think that they'll try and get you if you got to the password box, and had a try. They might, not sure...
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Postby lattera » Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:10 pm

Quote: from Rkiver on 10:04 am on Jan. 29, 2004[br]Zellforever: While this is a forum about a hacking game, it is not a place that people will just freely give out knowledge regarding "real" hacking, or even admit to knowing it. The best you can do is use google and search for a few sites, or learn how to use UNIX and Linux.


I'll publicly admit I have "real" hacking experience. After all, what's so bad about it?
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Postby TimTim » Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:11 pm

Quote: from Kendo THM on 5:08 pm on Jan. 30, 2004[br]
*and no, the NSA do not exist*
(Nsa is from a film: Public Enemy No. 1 or something)


What the National Security Agency doesn't exsist?
so www.nsa.gov is a big hoax?
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:13 pm

Heh, throwing out your computer will not protect you if you have hacked something.

The NSA does exist, www.nsa.gov .  
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Postby Kendo THM » Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:22 pm

Fine then...it does exist, but not like in the film, with their fancy ****...

The N.S.A. does look abit rubbish :)

I can only say:

www.fbi.gov

www.cia.gov

and, for some reason:
www.militarypolice.COM and thats just stupid
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:20 pm

The NSA is actually quite advanced.  They are quite possibly the best encryption people in the world.  I am still confused as to why people make statements like this without having a clue as to what they are saying.  Just seems silly to me.  :)
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Postby Adriac » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:25 pm

Bah, the NSA doesn't exist... They're just made up for Splinter Cell...


Seriously, though, the NSA is generally accepted to have the most powerful computing equipment - including some of the most brilliant people - anywhere in teh world :P
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Postby Grimbo » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:10 pm

the NSA do exist as was posted but could also stand for National Security Advisor(NSA) to the president of the USA.

if you want to to learn about hacking etc i suugest you look at purchasing a program called Steganos 5 this is a cd that provides the person with security systems to try and hack. it comes with all the stuff you need. i dont personally own this program but ive heard its good.

If you dont want to do this there are several websites on the internet that test you by making you use hex editors etc to try and crack through puzzles etc. i hope this is an insight for you.
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