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Postby hackerboy » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:00 pm

I said that we are created to bring honor and glory to God, not that we have.  My Bible says that God is honored when people follow Him.  

Your belief, or unbelief in God is between you and Him.
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Postby Rkiver » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:06 pm

Well I would raise the point then that the church who honor God went and killed a few million people over the years with crusades and the like. Now my belief, or in my case no belief is not between me and him, as to me his does not exist, and since something does not exist to me, there can be nothing between us.

Now I am not attempting to attack your belief in your or religion, but since most of the planet is not Catholic in anyway you must consider that perhaps they do not share your beliefs. Just something to consider.
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:09 pm

But most of the world does believe in God.  Also just because you do not believe a God exists does not mean one does not.  So something could be between you and "Him" even if you don't know it.  :)
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Postby poortwistedme » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:16 pm

Everyone has her/his own answer to this qestion, you can't really say that hackerboy is wrong.

Even if someone would say that the meaning of life would be to kill the whole human race (not implying that you said anything like that hackerboy) he wouldn't be wrong, unless he tried to do it.
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Postby hackerboy » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:19 pm

Quote: from Rkiver on 11:06 pm on Nov. 22, 2003[br]Well I would raise the point then that the church who honor God went and killed a few million people over the years with crusades and the like.

Now I am not attempting to attack your belief in your or religion, but since most of the planet is not Catholic in anyway you must consider that perhaps they do not share your beliefs.


To me, killing people is not honoring God, I don't know how you got the idea that I thought so.  In fact, in another post in this forum, I stated that I believe that the killing of anyone for any purpose is wrong.  I don't make a habit of judging, but I would say that the church that you are referring to is not following God's Word.

Also, I'm not a Catholic.:smile:
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Postby Rkiver » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:26 pm

Actually most of the world believes in a wide variety of gods, no one said they believe in the same one god, in fact some religions make a point by saying it is not the same as the Christian god. Some even have multiple gods.

Now I am not saying hackerboy is right or wrong, as an opinion we are all entitled to them. In fact his idea is a noble one, and if people adhered to that perhaps life would be better. But I honestly don't see that happening. And as most of the most destructive wars were started over religious beliefs I find it hard to believe that religion is the answer. Perhaps part of the answer, but not the whole answer.

I also apologise for the assumption that you were catholic hackerboy. Perhaps Christian would be a more correct assesment?

(Edited by Rkiver at 6:27 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Adriac » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:29 pm

Quote: from hackerboy on 1:00 pm on Nov. 22, 2003[br]I said that we are created to bring honor and glory to God, not that we have.  My Bible says that God is honored when people follow Him.  

Your belief, or unbelief in God is between you and Him.


I would submit that my refusal to believe or disbelieve in any God or gods removes me of any connection or conflict with any Him or them that may or may not exist :)

Mmm, agnostic wording...

(Edited by Adriac at 1:31 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:29 pm

55% of the World is either Christian or Muslim (Jews are an insignifigant percentage but we can include them as well).  These religions all believe in the same God.  :)
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Postby Adriac » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:32 pm

But you'd have a hard time getting them to admit it. Why is it so hard to just say they believe in a God?
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Postby hackerboy » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:36 pm

Actually, I believe in one true God.  

Muslims and Christians do not believe in the same God.  

Muslims believe that you are saved through acts, while Christians believe that you are saved throught faith.

Muslims call Jesus a great teacher, while Christians call Him, Saviour.

Jews and Christians believe in the same God, but Jews do not believe in Jesus.
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Postby Rkiver » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:38 pm

Over 3 Billion people are Christian or Muslim? I had no idea it was that many. But quite a few Muslims would infact say that Allah is not the Chrisitan god, even though as we know they grew out of the same religion.

Regardless this was supposed to be about the meaning of life, not religion. The simplest way to some it up to me would be; Live the best life you can, care for those around you, and be happy. Laugh at least once a day, for life may indeed be a gift. Cry once a day, for those who no longer have that gift. Think once a day, ponder for those who have yet to get their gift. And look forward to the day we may have peace.

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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:39 pm

Muslim and Christians believe in the same God, they just worship him differently.  Modern Islam is not very different from the Christianity of the Middle Ages and Renaissance.  :)
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Postby Adriac » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:41 pm

There is certainly a good argument to be made that Allah and God are one and the same omnipotent being, but I don't see where you get off saying they are the same thing by definition. Who are you to interpret their religious texts?

[edit] On a different note, this is one reason I like Buddhism... Buddhists don't believe in anyone (no, not Buddha), just in a philosophy- of being nice to people (and yourself). Very neat.

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Postby Rkiver » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:46 pm

Adriac: And guess what way of life I try and subscribe to? Buddhism is not a religion, it's a view on life.
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:48 pm

I am just as qualified as the next guy.  It is rather common knowledge that the Christian and Muslim faiths both build on the Hebrew Bible (though both reject and reinterpret many parts of it).  Even the Vatican recognises the fact that all three worship the same God.  :)

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