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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:10 pm

It just is given off as heat or remains stored in the chemial bonds. . .  :)
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Postby Coldfire26 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:12 pm

Well, if it was 'life of the human race' i'de say it can be destroied, but if it is just 'life' i asume it means the total existence of all living things, then the quesiton is asked how do you interrept concept of 'existence of life', if it is in comparison to the existence of somethingess it has no putpose, if it is compared to the question: 'why did this species evolve?' the purpose would be to exist.

Rkiver, it doesn't go *poof*, it goes somewhere, it has to, there is no verbal, physical or mental definition to what would happen if it did.

well, the body doesn't really have always a constant amount of energy, it uses matter to create it, when the process is flawed the amtter cannot be turned into energy, thus the body stops working. the energy we currently have simply turns to heat.

(Edited by Coldfire26 at 6:16 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby poortwistedme » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:17 pm

Well, if it was 'life of the human race' i'de say it can be destroied, but if it is just 'life' i asume it means the total existence of all living things, then the quesiton is asked how do you interrept concept of 'existence of life', if it is in comparison to the existence of somethingess it has no putpose, if it is compared to the question: 'why did this species evolve?' the purpose would be to exist

But why do they exist?
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The reason my qestion sounded strange was because you edited your post after i asked it Coldifre.

(Edited by poortwistedme at 6:21 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)


(Edited by poortwistedme at 6:26 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Coldfire26 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:18 pm

now that you state your question more clearly, they exist because they can.

(Edited by Coldfire26 at 6:24 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:18 pm

A rock exists, but is not life.  A molecule of oxygen exists, but is not alive.  There is a huge difference between simple matter and energy and life.  So far we have no evidence that life exists beyond this planet.  Which would mean if the planet was destroyed life could totally be wiped out.  Life is simply a special interaction between matter and energy such that several things occur, reproduction being the most important.  When life ceases, the matter and energy remain, its just that they no longer interact in the precise manner essential to life.  :)
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Postby Jackmn » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:23 pm

well, the body doesn't really have always a constant amount of energy, it uses matter to create it, when the process is flawed the amtter cannot be turned into energy, thus the body stops working. the energy we currently have simply turns to heat.
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The body doesn't use nuclear reactions to power itself.

It uses chemical ones, merely meaning that bonds between two or more atoms are split.

No substancial amount of mass is lost or generated in these reactions.


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There is no 'why' to the existence of life. The nature of the universe is simply such that evolution allows rather simple reproducing entities to become more complex ones, without the need for some kind of intelligent intervention.

(Edited by Jackmn at 4:26 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Coldfire26 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:26 pm

i didn't say in which process. mass? the question is about energy
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:26 pm

But matter is used to create energy.  Matter is just broken down so what went in as steak and kidney pie is converted into energy and less organised matter.  :)
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Postby Coldfire26 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:27 pm

hmm, i think this is 1 of the few times i agree with you, SBM
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Postby Jackmn » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:29 pm

Coldfire said:
amtter cannot be turned into energy
Right here is where his argument changes from chemical reactions to nuclear ones.

There is a big difference between turning matter into energy, and using it to create energy =)
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:33 pm

You're being overly critical, that does not have to mean fusion.  It is a fairly accurate statement about death and its effects on the body's systems.  :)
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Postby Jackmn » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:34 pm

Come now, when 'matter is turned into energy' there is a nuclear reaction of some form taking place.

Conversely, if the 'intra-molecular chemical bonds were being converted into energy', then it's a chemical reaction =)

Oh well, it's a matter of semantics anyways, continue the debate.

(Edited by Jackmn at 4:36 pm on Nov. 22, 2003)
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Postby Coldfire26 » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:44 pm

If you do insist i will use 'the matter cannot create energy' next time (or 'call forth energy')
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Postby hackerboy » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:52 pm

I believe that the purpose of a human's life is to bring honor and glory to God.  That's why we were created.
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Postby Rkiver » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:54 pm

hackerboy: Well what if you don't believe in a god? Are we evil? And if we are indeed supposed to bring honor and glory to god I would say we haven't done so good a job. Look at the war, the hate, the suffering. If that is glory to god I don't want any part of your religion.
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