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Postby Kronus » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:18 pm

Quote: from Farimir on 3:56 pm on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Jackmn on 1:46 am on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Kronus on 12:42 am on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Rkiver on 11:23 pm on Sep. 8, 2003[br]Well, no offense intended btw, Kronus, I think what he is implying is that being able to edit someone elses code is no big deal, but being able to create the virus yourself, after finding the exploitable faults, is something you can boast about.


True, very true, but I don't do that I only edit/recreate programs so they wouldn't have any faults unlike Microsoft (who, may I add copycats a source code w/o changes and makes it your own) I only find faults and fixes them (and of course I keep a copy and use it for my own ideas)

P.S. This is a paradox script for those who are not well skilled.
*cough Jackmn*cough*


(Edited by Kronus at 1:13 am on Sep. 9, 2003)
If you can't write something as small as a buffer overflow exploit without buggering up, you don't deserve a computer.

You seem to misunderstand what a script kiddie is. A script kiddie uses or modifies somebody elses exploit.

Now, who here would do something like that....?


Why would anyone want to create a buffer-overflow anyway?  YOU, I think, are the script kiddie. Yes, I believe Kronus may be one too, but you're mis-understanding the whole point of the word "script kiddie".  Script kiddies argue for no damned reason, and think they're "l337".  I believe that you think you are l33t, and find it exhilerating to keep correcting* Kronus and putting him off. How about you both shut the hell up.


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(Edited by Kronus at 4:29 pm on Sep. 9, 2003)
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Postby NeoThermic » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:01 pm

Ok, Im not one to shove around instults and stuff like that, but I feel that I must specifiy here.

Kronus - You have done this:

a) got some viruses
b) edited the code and put it together to make a new virus that activates on 25th dec.
c) think that you are better than Jackmn [we will get to this]

Now thats very lame. very.

Jackmn is more of a valued member of this community than you Kronus, and I agree more with what he says.

What you have done by doing the stuff with the virus has actualy earnt you a ticket to jail, if any of the conditions below are:
a) the virus is released on to any computers
b) it spreads
c) it creates more than $5,000 of disruption.

Hell. they could get you on b. You have given your IP and the time you were online. All the mods have to do is get the information of who you are from your ISP, and if the virus is activated, send that to the FBI. Volia, you  have that nice ticket to jail.

Why dont you swallow your self pride and just tell us that its a lie. It will only make you look bad for a small amount of time, not any longer than that.

Next time think before you speak [or type]


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Postby ToRmEnToR » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:31 pm

a good example of people like Kronus is the guy who got cought for making blaster b....

when i talked to my firend on the ICQ , he told me that the guy who created blaster b got cought, and then he said, guess how they got him,

and i was like "errr, he added some kind of backdoor mechanism that will let his specific ip in or something?"  

and i was rather close....

that guy edited the blaster a virus so it'll send all the info to a server. the investigators found this server, DNSed it, and guess what, the owner was the creator of blaster b! rofl, what a moron, he deserved to get cought...
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:35 pm

Quote: from Kronus on 7:12 pm on Sep. 8, 2003[br]
For propaganda reasons, moron. duh...


rofl! this must be the dumbest thing ever written.... you post so much about how you edited  viruses and stuff, and you say its for 'propaganda reasons, moron. duh...' ?

do you know what propaganda means?
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:35 pm

Yea, virus writers are generally not the smartest cookies.  :)
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:41 pm

Quote: from Jackmn on 1:46 am on Sep. 9, 2003[br]If you can't write something as small as a buffer overflow exploit without buggering up, you don't deserve a computer.


lol thats a bit harsh...

you've just described about 95% of the computer using population...  
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Postby Jackmn » Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:01 pm

Quote: from Farimir on 3:56 pm on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Jackmn on 1:46 am on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Kronus on 12:42 am on Sep. 9, 2003[br]
Quote: from Rkiver on 11:23 pm on Sep. 8, 2003[br]Well, no offense intended btw, Kronus, I think what he is implying is that being able to edit someone elses code is no big deal, but being able to create the virus yourself, after finding the exploitable faults, is something you can boast about.


True, very true, but I don't do that I only edit/recreate programs so they wouldn't have any faults unlike Microsoft (who, may I add copycats a source code w/o changes and makes it your own) I only find faults and fixes them (and of course I keep a copy and use it for my own ideas)

P.S. This is a paradox script for those who are not well skilled.
*cough Jackmn*cough*


(Edited by Kronus at 1:13 am on Sep. 9, 2003)
If you can't write something as small as a buffer overflow exploit without buggering up, you don't deserve a computer.

You seem to misunderstand what a script kiddie is. A script kiddie uses or modifies somebody elses exploit.

Now, who here would do something like that....?


Why would anyone want to create a buffer-overflow anyway?  YOU, I think, are the script kiddie. Yes, I believe Kronus may be one too, but you're mis-understanding the whole point of the word "script kiddie".  Script kiddies argue for no damned reason, and think they're "l337".  I believe that you think you are l33t, and find it exhilerating to keep correcting* Kronus and putting him off. How about you both shut the hell up.

(Edited by Farimir at 3:58 pm on Sep. 9, 2003)
One, mind yourself around regulars.

Two, did I ever say I've written a buffer overflow exploit, fucktard?

No. No I didn't.

Kronus is an idiot, idiots get flamed. That's how a messageboard works.

So, your entire post is useless drivel.

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Quote: from ToRmEnToR on 5:41 pm on Sep. 9, 2003
lol thats a bit harsh...

you've just described about 95% of the computer using population...  
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Pretend it says 'You don't deserve a compiler'.

(Edited by Jackmn at 9:05 pm on Sep. 9, 2003)
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Postby Kronus » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:15 am

First of all Jackmn, you don't read so well, much as think.
second, ToRmEnToR I'm such everybody knows what propaganda means(in this case typing something but it turns out wrong.)
Third, NeoThermic who in the hell said my IP address will be Identified its on a isolated computer unregistered, besides I'm also accesing this site from school.
Man, who you guys lack imaginations
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Postby Adriac » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:23 am

Quote: from Kronus on 8:15 pm on Sep. 9, 2003[br]First of all Jackmn, you don't read so well, much as think.
second, ToRmEnToR I'm such everybody knows what propaganda means(in this case typing something but it turns out wrong.)
Third, NeoThermic who in the hell said my IP address will be Identified its on a isolated computer unregistered, besides I'm also accesing this site from school.
Man, who you guys lack imaginations


First of all, Kronus, debate much?

Second of all, Kronus, I'm sure we all know what propaganda means, but I think you just proved you don't...

Third, Kronus, you want imagination? Picture this scenario. Icepick checks your IP (he can do that, you know) and looks it up. He finds a high school, which he calls, informing them that one of their students may be performing illegal activities from their computers. As they are legally responsible for knowing what you do online, and given the potential magnitude of the offense, they look it up in their logs. They find that someone on one of their computers did indeed go to this forum and confess to that. They do some checking, maybe corroborate it with some known information, or worse, call law enforcement to do the same, and guess what? You're busted.

A long shot, true, but think before you call someone else stupid.

Oh, and confess to crimes. That's a good one to remember.

(Edited by Adriac at 8:24 pm on Sep. 9, 2003)
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Postby tabasco boy » Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:58 am

Adriac if everything he's bragging is true. don't forget this thread is a good enough evidence too, to lock that stupid deranged eFFing c*?t which i hope he does.

i can imagine kronus screaming now MOMMY! MOMMY!
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Postby bgreene2001 » Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:33 am

Quote: from Kronus on 11:15 am on Sep. 10, 2003[br]First of all Jackmn, you don't read so well, much as think.


Well, Kronus, mayb e that's because you don't type so well.  This probably has something to do with the fact that you are an idiot, attention whore, arsehole, the lost goes on.  In my opinion, virus writers are both the scum of the earth, and would also have to have something very wrong with them mentally.

Now, I seriously doubt that you whould have the skill needed to even edit someone elses virus, especially considering your apparent age (from the way you type, choice of language, lack of understanding of well-known words)of about 10.  Add that to the fact that you are stupid enough to think that you won't get caught after bragging about it.

Even if you're lucky, and you school goes through a proxy, instead of having unique IP's for every computer, then your logs would be left on the proxy server (along with date, time, site accessed, etc), probably with your username too.
If the computers do have unique IP's, then it's a simple matter of checking either the DHCP logs, or if you are using static addressing, looking up which computer it was.  From there they will probably know who was logged into that machine, or be able to talk to people and someone will probably remember who was on it.

And if, as I believe, haven't written anything other than your low-IQ flamebait in this thread, then I'm sure your sys admin would be very interested to know about some little idiot in his school claiming to have modified the blaster virus.  I know that if I was an admin, and I found someone like that, I would be very careful to keep an eye on what he's doing.  It's not difficult to cause some trouble on a network/computer, and it's people like you that think it's funny to do so.
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:54 am

Quote: from Kronus on 1:15 am on Sep. 10, 2003[br]ToRmEnToR I'm such everybody knows what propaganda means(in this case typing something but it turns out wrong.)
Third, NeoThermic who in the hell said my IP address will be Identified its on a isolated computer unregistered, besides I'm also accesing this site from school.
Man, who you guys lack imaginations


I wont comment on the first part, Adriac made stuff quite clear...

anyways, on the rest, lemme just say this,

Kronus , your not one of a kind, or first of a kind. many , much more  imaginative than you , or me, or probably everyone else on this board have been caught.

cuz if some1 realy realy wants to find you (assuming that who ever is looking for you has a lot of resources), your only chance of not beeing found is living a life on the run...

and lol on you for thinking you wont get caught when you are using a school computer...

(Edited by ToRmEnToR at 10:55 am on Sep. 10, 2003)
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Postby Adriac » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:19 pm

Basic rule of thumb: No matter what you do, how much you plan or how well you cover your tracks, if your crime is big enough they will catch you.
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Postby Farimir » Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:41 pm

I was never taking up for Kronus, Jackmn.

and uhm, is fucktard your favorite word? ;)
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Postby bgreene2001 » Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:57 pm

When I'm talking to an idiot, I'm going to be using the word idiot a lot.  I'd say it's the same with fuctard :P
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