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Postby disturbedferrari » Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:33 am

yo,  i just got off a site and it says i need a ip spoofer ...  well does any one know where i cant download a ip spoofer?
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Postby disturbedferrari » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:10 pm

hey,  Come on if your a real hacker you will like this stuff...  And should share your knowledge with other people ...LIKE ME...
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Postby Starfyre » Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:27 pm

....what kind of site would tell you to get an IP spoofer?!

one know where i cant download a ip spoofer?


Well, at Fleurop I bet you can't! :)

Oh, hey kid, IP spoofing with a tool is not hacking, it's script kiddie-ing, in fact spoofing in general is not hacking.

So you won't become Über-l337 if you own an IP spoofer programmed by someone else.

Want to lean how to hack? Go here:
http://www.introversion.co.uk/cgi-bin/i ... 17&start=0
Read my first post and have some fun :)

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Postby Confederate EDA » Wed Mar 19, 2003 1:57 am

IP spoofing isn't that hard...routers do it all the time with NAT (Network Address Translator).  Pretending to be another system is easy, getting the responses back isn't.  Try digging into (strict/loose) source routing, if you want to spoof.  The only time you don't need/want to get the response is if you only want to crash the system, flood it, or if you want to do a "flying blind" attack.  This is what Kevin Mitnick did, by sending data, imagining the response, and continuing as though the system were doing what he wanted.  Read up on SPOOFING, SOURCE ROUTING, other stuff like this.  By the way, Nmap RULES...nuff said.
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Postby ben » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:00 am

Weren't you the one accusing us all of being fakes a few theads ago?
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Postby Jabberwocky » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:48 am

IP spoofing works as long as you're the man in the middle between the target and the spoofed source.
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:12 pm

the site said that you need to spoof your ip to get in?!??? wtf? how the hell can anything notice if the packet is spoofed or not? just when i thought i saw it all...

(Edited by ToRmEnToR at 1:13 pm on Mar. 19, 2003)
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Postby disturbedferrari » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:19 pm

yea i called some of you fake because you couldnt help me and some of you did help me...NOT.....  i dont want to proxy myself ...  just change my computer idenity
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:54 pm

well, you basicly cant do that, cuz if you send a packet to some place that from your computer, and the packet will contain an ip that is not yours, the computer that recives the packet will logicly send it back to the adress it came from....

now if you do it like that, you wont be able to astablish a connection to the other computer :\

unless you sit on another computer that has the ip adress that the spoofed packet contains....

BTW, there is no way to know what is a spoofed packet, and what isnt.
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:57 pm

Quote: from disturbedferrari on 1:19 pm on Mar. 19, 2003[br]yea i called some of you fake because you couldnt help me and some of you did help me...NOT.....


we done owe you anything, if none of us has the time to explain or help we wont.
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Postby Confederate EDA » Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:23 pm

 Yes, you did say that about everyone.  Why do you immediately start bitching as soon as you think nobody wants to/can help you?  Jesus, if it's not about Uplink, try looking on the internet for what you need.  If it is about the game, come here, but don't start shit just cause others can't/don't help.
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Postby lattera » Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:28 pm

Quote: from disturbedferrari on 5:10 am on Mar. 18, 2003[br]hey,  Come on if your a real hacker you will like this stuff...  And should share your knowledge with other people ...LIKE ME...


AHAHAHAHA. You think you're a real "hacker"? Tell me, what is hacking? If you truely were a "real hacker", wouldn't you code your own IP spoofer?

script-kiddies suck...
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Postby Confederate EDA » Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:57 am

 These days, hackers are beginning to HATE being called that, or calling themselves that, simply because hacking is becoming a SPORT!  Yes, that's right, a sport.  In high schools, the fastest growing sport now is hacking (not sure if it's real hacks or script kiddie shit).  But this is true.  There's so many losers trying to be electronic badasses that they are giving the rest of us a bad name.  So, when they begin saying "I'm a hacker", the real guys are groaning, left with the job of finding another good name.

 Most hackers now call themselve IT/IS experts, or Network Associates, etc.  And this is actually good, because people are afraid of those jobs, the law isn't out to catch people employed in these fields, etc.  I just can't STAND seeing all these kids out there thinking they are something big for just getting a taste of something cool, not even knowing what the damned ingredients are.  If I ever meet another kid who says "I'm a hacker", I'm gonna smack the shit out of him and teach him what he really is...a script kiddie. :cool:
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Postby GoodGuy » Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:10 am

So you feel quite strongly about this one then? :)

People these days don't know what Hacking is anyway.

Hacking is not:
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1) Attempting to crash systems
2) Attempting to delete data
3) Attampting to sabotage data/systems
4) Breaking servers
5) Putting virus' on remote machines

Hacking is:
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1) A skill to be learnt by sys-admins/IT Specialists to help understand the workings of Protocols etc...
2) A quest for knowledge

I could go on, but the point is there: Hacking is not an attempt to screw up people's machines, it's a quest for knowledge, understanding, information etc....
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Postby Confederate EDA » Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:43 am

 I couldn't agree more GoodGuy, well said.  Um...guess you said about all of it :cool:
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