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Postby lattera » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:34 am

I feel sorry for those lamers (akiyuki, deepsmeg, and others) who feel the need for attention. Why fill that need with negative energy? Why do something as IRRESPONSIBLE as a dumb DoS that takes 30 seconds to recover from?

Why?

I have no respect for lamers who choose to do these things so they can brag to their friends how they got to get out of school early so they can be arrested.

It saddens me (and pains me deeply) that people have to use violence for their 30 seconds/15 minutes of fame.

I suggest all you lamers/script kiddies to go read the hacker manifesto my The Mentor. It's in Phrack issue 7. Pick up a book, learn. Hacking is learning. DoS'ing is lame. Why don't you guys learn this?

Yes, I know I'm going to be flamed. I know that deepsmeg hates me now. I know that I'm risking being banned from this forum. If topics such as Sickbay Project show up more often, I WILL leave. Wargames will NEVER be offered here. You won't have a chance to learn from me. I am MORE THAN WILLING to help anyone who has a desire to start hacking.

edit: I'm more than willing, if the learner will use his/her knowledge for good, not evil. Doing evil stuff is just plain stupid, you get caught.

(Edited by lattera at 8:37 pm on Sep. 10, 2002)
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Postby kaaphi » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:46 am

I just want to say:

Way to go lattera!!
and I use these words pretty loosely
there's so much more to life than words
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Postby lattera » Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:50 am

Quote: from kaaphi on 8:46 pm on Sep. 10, 2002[br]I just want to say:

Way to go lattera!!


Being sarcastic? If not, thanks, I appreciate it.
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Postby kaaphi » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:04 am

No sarcasm, I completely agree with you. I really think there should be more people like you on this forum. I've definitely lost a lot of respect for deepsmeg. I don't even hack and I think DoSing is lame. It would probably take less then ten minutes to learn how, and I don't claim to know all that much.
and I use these words pretty loosely
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Postby TheSage » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:18 am

What about people like me?

If there were more of me in this world then...world...

...

something would be put to an end.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:34 am

DoSing right now is not even a blip on a radar screen. We deal with it in our sleep...

... with automated firewall state tables.

Make the firewall unhappy? You get...

dum de dum

DENIED!

Its not even worth responding to. Its a useful last resort. It can take down low bandwidth lines that piss you off. And if you have enough resources, like, oh, Fuzzy Bunny of a few years ago, you can dream of attacking root DNS servers.

No... what would be much worse, and much more elegant, is an attack to break root on a root DNS machine, then poison the zone transfer to bring the Internet to a standstill...
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Postby Adriac » Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:40 am

Now although you make good points lattera, I have two things to say.

The hacker's manifesto is crap.

and

It's like Jabberwocky said. DOSing is... Pointless.
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Postby Delateee » Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:27 am

Pointless :confused:
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Postby DiscoFever » Wed Sep 11, 2002 9:17 am

the Hackers Manifesto is a rather good read. atleast it is in my opinion

but yeh, way to go lattera, we need more people like you, and less lamers here
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Postby Deepsmeg » Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:07 pm

Ok. It seems a certyain person stillhas not yet gopt the point. I am ONLY the go between with Aki and the uplink community. He knows what it is, and thought there would be "helpful" people here.
What is the classic phrase? "Don't shoot the messenger"
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Postby Luigi300 » Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:52 pm

OK. *shoots deepsmeg* i didn't say messenger!
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Postby phucker76 » Wed Sep 11, 2002 1:35 pm

Who cares about irresponsible things you stupid gay twat
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Postby lattera » Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:37 pm

Quote: from Deepsmeg on 12:07 pm on Sep. 11, 2002[br]Ok. It seems a certyain person stillhas not yet gopt the point. I am ONLY the go between with Aki and the uplink community. He knows what it is, and thought there would be "helpful" people here.
What is the classic phrase? "Don't shoot the messenger"


Look, you are helping him with this, are you not? What is the point of a DoS? Why don't you answer that for me?

"Don't shoot the messanger" -- Your the one that's causing me to shoot at you. You and Akiyuki brought it upon yourselves.

It's always the "whitehat hacker" that is protecting us you forum members. Why should there be a need for protection? Why use the knowledge in a bad way?

Tell me something, deepsmeg, why are you going to DoS a Microsoft search server? What is the purpose?

Akiyuki seems to belive it will cut billions of dollars out of Bill Gates' fortunes, but the truth is it won't. The main reason Akiyuki is doing this, is because he wants fame. He wants to be noticed. He *hinted* that to me.

I've spent endless hours talking to him online, gathering information to forward to Microsoft.
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Postby Icepick » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:05 pm

Quote: from lattera on 4:34 am on Sep. 11, 2002[br]
Yes, I know I'm going to be flamed. I know that deepsmeg hates me now. I know that I'm risking being banned from this forum. (Edited by lattera at 8:37 pm on Sep. 10, 2002)


Why would you be banned from the forum??? What you said is pretty much acurate...
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Postby Deepsmeg » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:28 pm

Quote: from lattera on 2:37 pm on Sep. 11, 2002[br]
Quote: from Deepsmeg on 12:07 pm on Sep. 11, 2002[br]Ok. It seems a certyain person stillhas not yet gopt the point. I am ONLY the go between with Aki and the uplink community. He knows what it is, and thought there would be "helpful" people here.
What is the classic phrase? "Don't shoot the messenger"


Look, you are helping him with this, are you not? What is the point of a DoS? Why don't you answer that for me?

I agree, it's pointless. But if it works, it'd show them they aren't as good as they think they are

"Don't shoot the messanger" -- Your the one that's causing me to shoot at you. You and Akiyuki brought it upon yourselves.

Go yell at aki.

It's always the "whitehat hacker" that is protecting us you forum members. Why should there be a need for protection? Why use the knowledge in a bad way?

Can't think of a reply for this one

Tell me something, deepsmeg, why are you going to DoS a Microsoft search server? What is the purpose?

See above.

Akiyuki seems to belive it will cut billions of dollars out of Bill Gates' fortunes, but the truth is it won't. The main reason Akiyuki is doing this, is because he wants fame. He wants to be noticed. He *hinted* that to me.

Yeah well. ASki's a bit weird. You'll get used to it :P

I've spent endless hours talking to him online, gathering information to forward to Microsoft.

Have you told him your latest action? or do you need the liaison to do it?
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