Is uplink a trojan?

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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:20 am

On one hand, Uplink has so far tride to conect to a server and attempts to listen on 3 different ports, and on the other hand it can't seem to figure out how to get past my firewall! I'm woried for you other users out there who don't feel the need to protect themselves from themselves.  I still need to do some investigating, but this could deffinitly be a trojan horse. Hopefully some of you users can clarify this and if not then the moderator. Even if this isn't a trojan horse I still find any software revolting if it trys to do anything without my knowledge, so fix it!
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:23 am

WTF?
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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:27 am

You can download a free firewall from sygate and prevent this sort of thing from going on/see for yourself.
If no one can explain this to me I am going to be doing some portscanning and using whois on offending servers to find out what is going on for myself.
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:32 am

first of all I didnt understand the thing with the uplink connecting to the servers...

next thing: sygate firewall sux, BlackIce the bext!

next next thing: port scaning is a CRIME you can get in jail for scaning servers ports!

(Edited by ToRmEnToR at 7:32 am on July 29, 2002)


(Edited by ToRmEnToR at 7:32 am on July 29, 2002)
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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:36 am

Is port scanning a crime? I never would have known. I'll be sure not to do it then. I get port scanned constantly and find it quite offensive personaly, I'll be sure to contact admins through tracebacks in the future.  What I think should be a crime is writing code that trys to send packets to remote servers and listens on ports without telling me. What aren't you understanding exactly, I'm not sure on that *point*?
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:39 am

the thing that i didnt understand was with how is uplink related to all of this?

and stop being such a paranoid, If someone is trying to portscan you your firewall blocks it....
that doesnt mean you have to go all over the world in search of someone who did it...

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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:41 am

I understand that my firewalls block it...
And I still don't understand what you are having trouble with, "uplink.exe trys to connect to remote hosts and listens on ports"
How is anything other than uplink connected to this?
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:42 am

WHAT?

uplink is trying to connect????

Y didnt this happend to me?
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Postby nirvananet8 » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:44 am

Port scanning is only a crime if the target crashes, etc.
If you died in a forest and no one was around, would anyone care?
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Postby ToRmEnToR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:46 am

its always a crime.

but most of the time they dont look for you because it takes time and money....

but if the server crashes they have a very good reson to look for you....

but enyway if they find you scaning ports they can put you to jail
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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:47 am

I am using the demo.
Download the demo and run some tests, check to see if it is listening too; that doesn't always give you a warning unless actual packets try to go through.
I noticed that it wanted to send packets out exactly at the same time I hit pause the second time I played the game, of course this may have nothing to do with the event.
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Postby nirvananet8 » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:51 am

In what country?  In every country I can think of its completely legal.  I've scanned thousands of networks over the past few years.  In fact, I'm currently attempting to scan all of the aol subnets.  I've never even gotten a complaint.  The worst thing that can possibly happen is that my ISP might drop me.  But that's an ISP policy, not law.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:00 am

Ok, I just opened up Uplink and looked at my firewalls IP masq entries, nothing was out that shouldn't have been.

I also tried to scan that machine from another box, but the IP security policies I have are too strict.
There is always free cheese in a mousetrap.
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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:05 am

I'm going to have to keep monitoring Uplink to see how often this happens. I'm going to reinstall it now just in case the program stopps trying to connect if it fails after the first try. Curently my port scanner says Uplink.exe is listening on 138 137 and 139.
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Postby Darke » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:08 am

Ooh yeah, The protocols vary 2 as UDP (which is what web browsers listen as) and 1 as TCP
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