I dream of hackin

[TwEEd]

hey,
I am just a kid who likes to play onlinegames, have fun, and all that other childhood crap but i have always been interested in hacking.  I have been trying to break into this underground circle for a while now but it is, as some of you must know, not easy.  I have read text after text filled with nothing but vauge and outdated information.  What i need is somthing that starts from the ground up and trys to explain step by step the process of hacking.  If anyone knows what i could read or what direction i should start going that would be much appreciated.

PS.
and please hold back the laughter and flaming for a little while, thanx

[AxIOm]

Define hacking? It's a rather generalized term..

[c0ld chiLL]

yes, what would you like to do?

[TwEEd]

well, as a "legal" career choice i was thinking of somthing like a network administrator or some form of white hat hacking. What i need to know is, i guess, how hacking works and stuff. sorry i can't be more exact in my description but i don't really know. I have always been interested in all forms of anarchy but somthing about getting info not for my eyes and going to places that are not travled by many just gets the juces flowin, lol

[invisionz]

as far as wanting to hack here are some simple steps made by yours truly
1.  Learn how a computer works....like input output........1 and 0s and if then else commands etc.
2. learn a simple language...html? perl?
3. learn vb then c++ then python then delphie then if ur a realy master C
4. learn "winsocks"
5. hack to  your dreams content without being caught....though my damn isp tracks EVERY thing you click so i can't do too much hacking w/o being seen......though they let me slide

[Luigi300]

What ISP?

[c0ld chiLL]

well if you decide exactly what you want to do just do a search for it on google, i used to have a HUGE archive of text files on the internet and a bunch of shells for people to hack but they all got abused by some black hat hackers a hackers.com and got shutdown and crashed.

Two really nice languages to learn are javascript and c/c++

*or replace c/c++ with python*

[AxIOm]

VB ...cringe... a relative took the class, she dropped, gave me her academic crap (VB 6.0 Working Model *ewww..yes I know*).  It nearly gave me an annurism.  Anyway , I opted to learn VC++, hopefully I can expand my knowledge on many other things later. Computer's were a rarity for me until a little while ago, so I started late in life. I read somewhere that Assembly is good to learn as well. Programming is addicting for me, I don't care whether I "hack" something or not, just the learning is enough for me, possibilities are endless.

Blech, anyway it's all good. Try to keep off the uber1337 crap. Be intelligent.

Linux, I want, but..must wait. *mutter*

(Edited by AxIOm at 4:55 pm on July 3, 2002)

[Talyn]

Even most of the information IS outdated, the basics are still the same.

Before actually hacking try to hack your own computer.

Remember: Nothing you learn can hurt you, but how you use it might.

Also before hacking, learn how a computer system works.

Get into every crevace of your computer.

And most importantly, dont forget the Unix Shell.

Talyn

[c0ld chiLL]

I used to practice in some websites that had shells set unix shells set up for free hacking without danger of getting cuaght but i dont know the url of these sites anymore. I used to set them up to but they got major abuse from some hackers and were shut down.

[Chad Mulligan]

Perl?  Simple?  Maybe as a second language, but I'm not sure that such a free-form language is the best to start.

C/C++ are pretty easy to pick up (the major parts, anyway.  Things like multiple inheritance are more complicated, and one _can_ make truly horrible code if desired -- see the IOCCC for reference), given how people tend to relate well to step-by-step imperative languages compared to more unusual languages like Prolog or primarily functional languages like ML and Lisp.

Stevens, if memory serves, wrote the common references on TCP/IP and Unix networking.  Tanenbaum wrote a commonly-used textbook on computer networking.  All the RFCs are public, of course.  There are oodles and oodles of C/C++ books, but of course Kernighan & Ritchie is the main reference (emphasize:  reference, not tutorial).  Silberschatz wrote a oft-used book on operating systems.  Hennessy (sp?) and Patterson wrote the main computer architecture textbooks.  Yadda yadda...

[Lancr]

www.hackquest.com
I think this site is still up, and it gives info as well as puzzles to hack

[c0ld chiLL]

intresting site...........

[Rushyo]

http://www.blackcode.com, a script kiddies dream.

[Endy]

http://www.hackerslab.org/

And if anyone works out how to get from Level16 to Level17, give me a hint :) I can't work the damn thing out.