[Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

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[Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby Joewp896 » Fri May 01, 2015 10:54 am

My current prison is mostly Med Sec, but I have a small area in the top corner dedicated to death row. In this area they have a shower and a common room all set out, but even though its set to 'death row only' they only ever stay in their cells and they never was or use the common room.

I feel that death row should do more than sleep and walk back and forth in their cells all day, because it doesn't seem right that they are in pretty much permanent lockdown almost 99% of the time.

They should be able to use the follow periods as other prisoners do (providing its death row only); Shower, Yard, Free Time, and Work (as another free time). Should there be any another other periods that people think they should add for death row be sure to add them below (because I have probably forgotten a load)
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby dapullia » Sat May 02, 2015 9:05 pm

Hate to say it but that's normal for death row prisoners at least in the US. The exception might be yard time for a few hours a week by themselves in special rec cages outside or family visits.They will use items if you build them in their cells. I have larger cells for my Death Row guys and I give them a phone, tv, shower, bookshelf, bed, and toilet and they seem to use them fine as long as they are within their cells. Think about it, these guys have killed outside the prison and are willing to do it again most likely. They should have a higher tendency to attempt to kill staff to escape considering that they basically know they have a date with Ole Sparky just don't know when and no hope of release. Think of it like full time punishment by keeping them locked down you are preventing them from getting their hand on staff and each other and keeping everyone safe. Considering what they did, there might even be other prisoners who would do the state a favor and knock off this outstanding prison citizen. Its more or less a control thing I think.
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby Joewp896 » Sun May 03, 2015 7:36 pm

dapullia wrote:Hate to say it but that's normal for death row prisoners at least in the US. The exception might be yard time for a few hours a week by themselves in special rec cages outside or family visits.They will use items if you build them in their cells. I have larger cells for my Death Row guys and I give them a phone, tv, shower, bookshelf, bed, and toilet and they seem to use them fine as long as they are within their cells. Think about it, these guys have killed outside the prison and are willing to do it again most likely. They should have a higher tendency to attempt to kill staff to escape considering that they basically know they have a date with Ole Sparky just don't know when and no hope of release. Think of it like full time punishment by keeping them locked down you are preventing them from getting their hand on staff and each other and keeping everyone safe. Considering what they did, there might even be other prisoners who would do the state a favor and knock off this outstanding prison citizen. Its more or less a control thing I think.
I guess thats kinda more realistic, but I think they should at least be allowed to shower, and maybe have allotted times that they can walk outside their cell for (in indicated areas), but have a guard by their side at all times. I probably didn't think this through well enough because we don't have death row in the UK.
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby Zombi3HeroBrin3 » Fri May 22, 2015 2:52 am

Joewp896 wrote:My current prison is mostly Med Sec, but I have a small area in the top corner dedicated to death row. In this area they have a shower and a common room all set out, but even though its set to 'death row only' they only ever stay in their cells and they never was or use the common room.

I feel that death row should do more than sleep and walk back and forth in their cells all day, because it doesn't seem right that they are in pretty much permanent lockdown almost 99% of the time.

They should be able to use the follow periods as other prisoners do (providing its death row only); Shower, Yard, Free Time, and Work (as another free time). Should there be any another other periods that people think they should add for death row be sure to add them below (because I have probably forgotten a load)

there in lockdown 100% of time in real DR prisons not counting last meal and execution.
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby CumpyLustard » Sat May 23, 2015 2:43 am

I'm not really sure.

On one hand, being locked up at almost all times is pretty standard for prisoners on death row in real life, with few exceptions.

On the other hand, I think being able to build more facilities for them and let them do more is fitting with how you can play the rest of the game. If you want to build tiny cells and suppress your prisoners as much as possible, you can, and if you want to build your prisoners luxury cells where they can fulfill almost all of their needs, you can. Death row certainly is a special case, though, so maybe it should be treated differently.
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby dapullia » Sat May 23, 2015 7:13 pm

In real life, most DR prisons have special areas called Death Watch Cells. These are more comfortable and offer the person a location maybe with a table and chairs for a last meal, full time access to Family visitors and clergy, and a phone and shower. The person is generally moved here 24 hours ahead of the sentence being carried out. Visitors are removed about an hour or two prior to sentence being carried out to give them time for the family observers to be moved to the observation area and the guards to prep and move the prisoner to the death chamber. I think that the current execution system works but it would be more realistic to actually require you to schedule the execution like a program. Basically, once scheduled at key points the player will be required to authorize the various actions. Ex. 1 Day ahead of time, conduct facility tests, inform staff to make preparations and inform the prison population that there will be lock down so they can take care of any needs. 6 hour before time, move the prisoner to Death Watch and terminate clemency hearings. Close the prison to outside visitors, Suspend work regimes, etc. Begin facility wide lock down. Authorize family unlimited visitation time with the condemned prisoner. Authorize unlimited access to the person's chosen religious leader. 4 hours prior, authorize last meal. The cooks should prepare a special tray for this which should be the equivalent of setting all normal policy on meals to the max levels. Maybe even the Chief delivers it. The prisoner could also wave his right to this randomly. 2 hours prior to execution, family access is removed and they are moved to the execution facility. The person is allowed an hour of private time with his religious advisory and is allowed time for a final shower. At any point during the 6 hour lead in, you could get a phone call halting the proceedings up to the point where it is time to authorize the pulling of the switch. 1 hour before execution time, authorize the dispatch of the execution detail to Death Watch. They arrive and 30 mins. prior, authorize the escort. I would like to see a new room called an Observation room that requires you to put next to your execution chamber and install observation windows which has curtains or blinds over them that close and open. Basically, the curtains or blinds remain closed till the person is in place and they are ready to proceed with final statements and the execution. Then you could authorize the final statement about 10 minutes prior to execution and at execution time, the authorize button would become available for the guards to throw the switch.
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Re: [Suggestion] Ability for Death Row to do more

Postby Hecthor Doomhammer » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:59 am

Just have a showerhead inside of the cell. also a workbench. They will use them to get the needs down.
My Death Row cells were honestly the most luxurious in my playthrough of alpha 32-33 on stream

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