(suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

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(suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby PureH » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:39 pm

After A Riot In my Prison I was Looking Through the people in solitary to see who was doing the murdering and when i got to One of my Prisoners he had around 6 murders and 200 Years Imprisonment.
Now I think if a Prisoner had committed this many murders They would be on Deathrow so Do you think you would be able to add in the Option to send prisoners who have done something like this to deathrow
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby dapullia » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:24 am

There needs to be a way to send someone to death row for offenses in prison. If a prisoner kills a guard or another prisoner/starts a riot then the prisoner needs to have a disciplinary hearing (make it a parole hearing for simplicity sake). This hearing would consist of the same players as the Death Row Clemency hearing plus a prosecutor (ie. the prison lawyer). The judge would review the prisoner's history and then there would be a background roll of the dice like there is for Clemency. The more people he has killed, the higher the chance that the prisoner will be given a death row sentence. The more the prisoner has misbehaved would also be an aggravating factor. The more people the person has killed in prison and how bad their behavior has been would determine their chances of being downgraded back to Max Sec. Basically, if a person killed 4 guards then if they hit the jackpot in the disciplinary hearing chances are that they would be eligible to be introduced to ole sparky right away by being given a very low clemency chance (you saw them do it). If you had CCTV, then it would almost always guarantee an upgrade to Death Row status and a 0 to 15% Clemency status.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby Zimamazim » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:25 pm

I think IV doesn´t want to have death row prisoners, if you don´t want them. It´s like optional extra feature. But in prisoner overview can be (after he does somethink terrible) button "allow death row". Then, if you have execution facility, he´ll be death row prisoner. And if not, he´ll be tranported to "another facility" (escorted away)
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby dapullia » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:31 pm

That is kind of the point. You would have to choose to have the disciplinary hearing for a death row status upgrade. You cannot control the outcome. If you have Death Row in your prison and you are paid the death row intake fee if that prisoner becomes a death row prisoner through the hearing. If you do not have a death row in your prison, the person is transferred out to a suitable facility elsewhere and you pay an additional fee in addition to the hearing costs (transportation costs). At any rate, you are rid of a trouble maker. If you have a death row in your facility then there is a chance that he can get clemency and be returned to max status. I want to amend that suggestion in that prisoners should be upgraded to max sec status before they become a candidate for a disciplinary hearing.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby Person012345 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:18 am

You actually can do this by simply editing the save file. It would be nice if there was some process to get someone who murdered a dozen guards put there by a court or something, but for now you can, if you feel someone deserves it, send them to DR by editing the save file. I did it once for a guy who murdered 28 people in my prison.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby xPyr0x » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:41 am

Easier to just wall over a solitary cell or have armed guards shoot him.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby MMZ>Torak » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:06 pm

dapullia wrote:That is kind of the point. You would have to choose to have the disciplinary hearing for a death row status upgrade. You cannot control the outcome. If you have Death Row in your prison and you are paid the death row intake fee if that prisoner becomes a death row prisoner through the hearing. If you do not have a death row in your prison, the person is transferred out to a suitable facility elsewhere and you pay an additional fee in addition to the hearing costs (transportation costs). At any rate, you are rid of a trouble maker. If you have a death row in your facility then there is a chance that he can get clemency and be returned to max status. I want to amend that suggestion in that prisoners should be upgraded to max sec status before they become a candidate for a disciplinary hearing.


This, please.

Keeping murderous prisoners around to simply murder more people, or starving them to death, or setting death traps where by problem prisoners are "allowed" to escape and then shot while doing so is not the proper method for handling problem prisoners.

Unless of course you are designing a "block of flats"... :twisted:
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby Threehorns » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

snitches and ex-law enforcers are normally the ones that die in prison
.... have you tried to discover these fast and place them in protected custody?

example: Phone taps and confidential informants can assist in discovering the snitches and ex-law enforcers, before they are killed.
example: New prisoners can be placed in separation until you discover which ones need to be placed in protected custody.

yes, PA is a micro game. On a test map I had 40 cells for new prisoners with each cell having a tapped phone boot. No one left that cell until i knew who needed protection.

Famous places to see them killed are: Yard at entree point.
I've Once seen 3 prisoners beat an ex-law to death during kitchen duty
Even the chapel isnt sacret enough.

For me, I just stopped caring as its to much micro, while I'm focusing to quickly build a prison to try things out.
Otherwise, temporary cell with tapped phoneboots worked best for the zero deaths. (except if you fail on needs and prisoner character sifting)
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby xProlithium » Wed May 13, 2015 10:14 pm

o/ I wanted to say that I'd like the idea of sending an inmate to deathrow under certain circumstances.

For example: Image


Notice just about every Misconduct is there INCLUDING TWO MURDERS!! Idk about you.. but I'd like to throw that guy on the chair. He murdered his Parole Officer as well as one of my armed guards.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby 5hifty » Thu May 14, 2015 2:54 am

Well.... Two murders isn't that much. People come in to max sec with 5 murders to their name pretty regularly - would seem a little bit like we were judge and exicutioner of we could send people to the chair for Murdoch a guard or two....
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby MMZ>Torak » Thu May 14, 2015 3:18 pm

5hifty wrote:Well.... Two murders isn't that much. People come in to max sec with 5 murders to their name pretty regularly - would seem a little bit like we were judge and exicutioner of we could send people to the chair for Murdoch a guard or two....


I have a Legendary that regularly busts out of his cell kills an armed guard and takes his weapons and then runs through the cell block firing at anything destructible. He's committed at least 4-5 murders while in custody.

I think it's fair if I was to play Judge Judy, Executioner..

What about all those Armed Guards' kids and the Poor Puppies left behind after he murdered the handler and his dog? They deserve justice!
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby Zombi3HeroBrin3 » Sun May 24, 2015 8:22 pm

xProlithium wrote:o/ I wanted to say that I'd like the idea of sending an inmate to deathrow under certain circumstances.

For example: Image


Notice just about every Misconduct is there INCLUDING TWO MURDERS!! Idk about you.. but I'd like to throw that guy on the chair. He murdered his Parole Officer as well as one of my armed guards.

i had a guy kill his parole officer,start a fire,shank a guard,kill half of super max(5 prisoners :P )KILL HIS FAMILY have 5 escape attempts,assault 3 armed guards, kill all of protective custody(3 prisoners :shock: )and was sentenced to 200 years in prison.and he came to my prison as a min sec and left as a min sec..HOW DID HE GET TO SUPER MAX AREA!?!??!?
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby RedTear » Mon May 25, 2015 3:19 pm

No, WE cant do that. But if someone misbehaves, and that includes posession of drugs as well as assault imo, an additional trial has to happen for resentencing.

Now, your two murder guy is a joke imo, i have a guy sitting in supermax who last time i checked had 33 murders under his belt (after ariving in my prison - allthough i got him mostly under control now actualy, permanent solitary in a luxery solitary with everything, even a prayer mat and a phone booth, all needs except clothing and freedom are met, and of course many guards are around, for all the damages he caused, its not as bad as it has been). Well, at least it where all guards so deaths in custody still sits at a comfortable 7, 4 of which occoured on my first try at death row, which was a huge desaster, huge map, death row located at the bottom left of it, offices allmost as far away as possible... the other prisoners wherent getting any sleep that night.. Did i mention that im running a maxsec prison with over 600 prisoners and counting?

Anyhow, its not hard to imagine a jury would send this guy to death row.

Maybe hes picked up and taken to another prison if you dont have one.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby xProlithium » Sat May 30, 2015 9:56 pm

RedTear wrote:No, WE cant do that. But if someone misbehaves, and that includes posession of drugs as well as assault imo, an additional trial has to happen for resentencing.

Now, your two murder guy is a joke imo, i have a guy sitting in supermax who last time i checked had 33 murders under his belt (after ariving in my prison - allthough i got him mostly under control now actualy, permanent solitary in a luxery solitary with everything, even a prayer mat and a phone booth, all needs except clothing and freedom are met, and of course many guards are around, for all the damages he caused, its not as bad as it has been). Well, at least it where all guards so deaths in custody still sits at a comfortable 7, 4 of which occoured on my first try at death row, which was a huge desaster, huge map, death row located at the bottom left of it, offices allmost as far away as possible... the other prisoners wherent getting any sleep that night.. Did i mention that im running a maxsec prison with over 600 prisoners and counting?

Anyhow, its not hard to imagine a jury would send this guy to death row.

Maybe hes picked up and taken to another prison if you dont have one.

Sorry for the late post. I'm still all for adding people to deathrow. Also, yeah he is a joke, but the reason he hasn't killed 33 people like yours is because i have 4 armed guards patrolling around him with Free Fire enabled. So he just gets shotgun pellets until he's unconscious or DEAD. Kind of which he'd die already..

EDIT: The only reason I know this won't happen, and the only reason I'm not holding my breath for that method, is because sentencing a prisoner to deathrow is not the prison's job, the warden's job, or the armed guards that surrounding them. It's the government that placed them there to begin with.
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Re: (suggestion)Sending Prisoners to deathrow

Postby Inge Jones » Sun May 31, 2015 9:22 am

You should be able to transfer a prisoner out, at a financial cost. But as someone else pointed out, there is no way the prison system can simply decide to execute a prisoner!! They would have to be tried by jury for the new offences.

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