Change "Guard" to "Correction Officer." We are Correction Officers. We are not guards. We go through a Corrections Academy to be able to work in the jail/prison. The word "guard" sounds uneducated. The people you see in uniform at your local mall are guards. We are trained professionals. Many CO's will be offended if you call them a guard.
This is the equivalent of calling a truck driver a "heavy on-road vehicle operator" or "logistics transport specialist"(both are titles I've seen people stick on resumes for more syllables). The primary function of a correctional officer is still guarding prisoners. I understand the premise of your logic, but it's ultimately a self-esteem issue that's outside of the scope of the game, in my opinion.
The primary function of a correctional officer is not simply guarding prisoners. If you think our job is to walk down a hall banging our batons along the bars of cells then you're mistaken. If you think we just watch people in cells all day, you're mistaken. The only time inmates are in their cells are when they sleep, during lockdown, or if they don't feel like participating in rec. The other hours of the day, they're in rec, workers cleaning the unit or in the cookhouse, going on work details outside the facility, getting drug counseling and attending classes in the jail to get their GED or college credits. Modern jails and prisons are no longer a "lock them in and throw away the key" operation. As much as these places are still undesirable to live in, they've advanced considerably much in terms of living conditions and opportunities available to inmates. Supervising all these inmates going to and from, while making sure your unit is orderly certainly isn't as much of a cakewalk as you think being a "guard" is.
Just out of curiosity, where you work what do you do with informants or ' at risk ' prisoners? Because currently it's obvious that the game makes it easy for the protective custody people to get killed? Also what do you with ' ex-law enforcement prisoners?
Great question. In my facility we have a protective custody wing for "snitches," sex offenders, ex-law enforcement, rape victims, and anyone who is at great risk of being attacked or preyed upon. It's smaller and does have an extra officer. If it's widely known around the jail by inmates that there's an ex-law enforcement guy incarcerated, we'll ship him to another county where the inmates don't know who he is. During passing periods for classes and chapel, we have to make sure that general population doesn't cross paths with PC inmates to prevent any issues. The PC unit always has meal delivered, they never eat in the chowhall. And sometimes this is a problem, because the gen pop inmates make all the meals and they know where the meals are going, so sometimes they'll pack them less food as payback. So the officer in the cookhouse has to supervise them closely to make sure that doesn't happen.
Jailer wrote:It seems to me that you are leaving out a lot of MUST-have changes -
- walls are not called walls, but restrictive ambulatory impediments. Also they come in soothing colours - although you would probably call them colors.
- people look NOTHING like the sprites in the game - they are detailed personalities that are easily distinguished from each other in looks and behaviour/behavior...
- also, you go to work at 7AM in a red car and cannot find that back in the game at all....
TL;DR: this is a game, not your personal life/job IV are trying to recreate.
You know, as a guy who actually works in a jail, I thought I was doing a nice thing by providing some insight as to the real-life operation of these facilities. But then there's people like you who think that I came here to take over the development of the game, demanding changes that must be made. Sure I opened up my post by stating some things were a "must change," but overall they were suggestions that I was hoping would spark some conversation over some aspects that could change and ideas that perhaps could be implemented. This last point isn't directed towards you, but it seems like we've got a few prison experts here who know the policies and procedures of jails/prisons better than I do....
simz04 wrote:In PA dead guards are comon, in real life im pretty sure employees would refuse to work if a couple of their friends got killed by a 'legendary' in the same week!
To be completely honest with you, inmate violence against correction officers is not very common. The reason being that they would be charged with assaulting an officer, adding substantial time to their sentence. The last riot at my jail was over a decade ago, and nobody died. Some inmates took other inmates hostage. It was resolved when my jail's response team stormed the unit we lost control of and took custody of all the inmates involved. Not bad for a bunch of "guards" huh?
BigJDub wrote:Without going threw each one because it would take forever and get boring you need to keep something in mind. The names you use for things in your jail does not reflect the names used in every jail or prison. So renaming to make you happy would make others recommend changes in the same way you did.
There are plenty of jails and prisons that allow face to face contacts. I had a family member in a US maximum security prison and I was allowed face to face visits and allowed to hug him.
I'm just introducing some new vocabulary here from real experience, I don't expect everything I say to be put into the game.
Some facilities have contact visits. Some don't. My doesn't. But the game doesn't have to be my facility. The game has contact visits, so I was introducing the suggestion of no-contact visits.
BigJDub wrote:I always love the guard vs correctional officer argument. Not sure why you brought that up considering you're a jailer. In most city's and towns a jailer has no formal training and is an entry level position. IMHO using the term officer suggests you have authority any where you go. In reality once you leave your work site you are the same as any one else. When you think about it the only difference between a correctional officer and a mall security guard is that the people a mall cop watches haven't been convicted of a crime in most cases. They both walk long hallways looking in small rooms for people doing bad things and once in a while get in a fight.
No formal training huh? That's interesting seeing as how we have an academy for recruit officers to learn use of force, supervision of inmates, suicide prevention, restraint training, strip search procedures, cell search procedures, de-escalation techniques, civil liability, court testimony, ethics, disciplinary procedures, hazmat procedures, gang identification, fire procedures and emergency air-pack use, cell extractions, hostage situations, key control, radio communication, report writing, drug identification, pepper spray, baton, and firearm training, inmate's legal rights, and inmate transports outside of facility. That's what I can think of right now. Not bad for a bunch of "guards?"
And so you know, outside of work I see people who used to be incarcerated all the time. Some times they approach me, and they're usually respectful and tell me about how they're doing in life now. And they're respectful to me because I was respectful to them when they were in jail. Sure they're criminals but they're still human and are given human rights. When you go to your mall or absolutely anywhere, chances are highly likely that you're walking among ex-cons who've served their time.