Gun rooms

(previously 'DEVELOPER') Private forum for registered community members. To register, please visit www.prison-architect.com/register.

Moderator: NBJeff

Striket1234
level1
level1
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun May 26, 2013 5:29 am

Gun rooms

Postby Striket1234 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:08 pm

I have a feeling that this feature is coming and I was wondering when. It would be really cool to have it and it would be nice little addition to the game. How to people feel about this?
neale1993
level1
level1
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:22 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Gun rooms

Postby neale1993 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:18 pm

It depends. What do you mean by 'Gun'?

If your referring to live rounds and weapons then no. Armed guards on site could be considered but only used in the most extreme cases.

If your on about none lethal rounds then this is a possibility. I think it would me more like a riot room, with the weapons rounds and riot gear in for general use in riots.

But live rounds and weapons I don't think should be in the game.
conquestking
level1
level1
Posts: 23
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:22 am

Re: Gun rooms

Postby conquestking » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:59 pm

neale1993 wrote:It depends. What do you mean by 'Gun'?

If your referring to live rounds and weapons then no. Armed guards on site could be considered but only used in the most extreme cases.

If your on about none lethal rounds then this is a possibility. I think it would me more like a riot room, with the weapons rounds and riot gear in for general use in riots.

But live rounds and weapons I don't think should be in the game.


Dude real prisons, as well as movie prisons, are filled with "gun rooms", also known as armories. Why "no" on guns? Here in America (except commiefornia and new york) guns are part of everyday life, and as so, they aren't rare or only given to special units.
thekillergreece
level4
level4
Posts: 876
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:31 pm
Location: Ammm...Greece maybe?

Re: Gun rooms

Postby thekillergreece » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:03 pm

neale1993 wrote:It depends. What do you mean by 'Gun'?

If your referring to live rounds and weapons then no. Armed guards on site could be considered but only used in the most extreme cases.

If your on about none lethal rounds then this is a possibility. I think it would me more like a riot room, with the weapons rounds and riot gear in for general use in riots.

But live rounds and weapons I don't think should be in the game.


Well, Chris said that they would add guards armed with weapons and armor in far future alpha versions, only after true balance..
User avatar
MAdMaN
level4
level4
Posts: 899
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:12 pm
Location: Manchester, England

Re: Gun rooms

Postby MAdMaN » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:07 pm

conquestking wrote:Here in America (except commiefornia and new york) guns are part of everyday life, and as so, they aren't rare or only given to special units.

Here in the UK, where Introversion is based, guns are so rare that only specialist units are given them and beat cops hardly ever get to touch them.
neale1993
level1
level1
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:22 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Gun rooms

Postby neale1993 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:37 pm

thekillergreece wrote:
neale1993 wrote:It depends. What do you mean by 'Gun'?

If your referring to live rounds and weapons then no. Armed guards on site could be considered but only used in the most extreme cases.

If your on about none lethal rounds then this is a possibility. I think it would me more like a riot room, with the weapons rounds and riot gear in for general use in riots.

But live rounds and weapons I don't think should be in the game.


Well, Chris said that they would add guards armed with weapons and armor in far future alpha versions, only after true balance..


Ok, what I had in mind by someone suggesting a gun room, was an armoury where during a riot any guard can run and grab a gun. This is what I was originally disagreeing to.
Rethinking my original post, i think the armoury would be an addition *on the basis* they work similar to a kennel; Allow you to hire armed guards that have to return here in order to rearm, switch weapons, grab upgraded weapons etc. But these should only be used in the last resort. There should be a way to edge us away from using them until they are needed. (For example, an armed prisoner or hostage situation, or even an attempted breakout by external gangs!)

I dont feel normal guards should be able to go, grab a gun, and start running round threatening prisoners. Maybe, in the same room, they can grab riot gear, tasers, or none lethal weaponry. But not lethal weapons.
As said, here in the UK guns are rare. I understand the situation in america, where almost every police unit has weapons. Over here we have designated special armed units. No other officer carries weapons, even in prisons, I believe.
snarst
level2
level2
Posts: 181
Joined: Thu May 02, 2013 9:57 pm

Re: Gun rooms

Postby snarst » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:44 pm

conquestking wrote:
neale1993 wrote:It depends. What do you mean by 'Gun'?

If your referring to live rounds and weapons then no. Armed guards on site could be considered but only used in the most extreme cases.

If your on about none lethal rounds then this is a possibility. I think it would me more like a riot room, with the weapons rounds and riot gear in for general use in riots.

But live rounds and weapons I don't think should be in the game.


Dude real prisons, as well as movie prisons, are filled with "gun rooms", also known as armories. Why "no" on guns?


Actually in the U.S. prison guards are not allowed to have guns unless they are in watch towers or outside on perimeter patrol. This is because we have learned time and again the hard way that one will eventually find their way in the hands of an inmate. Even police officers need to surrender their guns before they are allowed in.

Not that I would be against giving people the option to get armed guards, it might be fun to have an old 1950's style prison.

conquestking wrote:(except commiefornia and new york)

are you trying to piss people off?
Last edited by snarst on Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
MAdMaN
level4
level4
Posts: 899
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:12 pm
Location: Manchester, England

Re: Gun rooms

Postby MAdMaN » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:49 pm

snarst wrote:
neale1993 wrote:(except commiefornia and new york)

are you trying to piss people off?

You might want to fix your quote so it's quoting the person who actually said that and not the person they're replying to.
neale1993
level1
level1
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:22 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Gun rooms

Postby neale1993 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:53 pm

snarst wrote: Are you trying to piss people off?


I aplologise if I am, what part seems like I am may I ask? I'm just giving my opinion. I'm not trying to annoy anyone.
snarst
level2
level2
Posts: 181
Joined: Thu May 02, 2013 9:57 pm

Re: Gun rooms

Postby snarst » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:55 pm

neale1993 wrote:
snarst wrote: Are you trying to piss people off?


I aplologise if I am, what part seems like I am may I ask? I'm just giving my opinion. I'm not trying to annoy anyone.


that wasn't you, my quote was off.
air805ronin
level1
level1
Posts: 14
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:48 pm
Location: Des Moines, IA

Re: Gun rooms

Postby air805ronin » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:02 pm

snarst wrote:Actually in the U.S. prison guards are not allowed to have guns unless they are in watch towers or outside on perimeter patrol. This is because we have learned time and again the hard way that one will eventually find their way in the hands of an inmate. Even police officers need to surrender their guns before they are allowed in.

Not that I would be against giving people the option to get armed guards, it might be fun to have an old 1950's style prison.

conquestking wrote:(except commiefornia and new york)

are you trying to piss people off?


This is very true about the U.S. You won't generally find firearms inside a prison because of the fact that the guard force is abysmally smaller than the inmates. Armories are kept outside the walls and are issued to tower guards. Firearms are kept out of the prison because it would only take one falling into inmate hands to allow a complete takeover of the prison.

That said, in response to the off topic dig on California and New York. New York Corrections officers automatically get a conceal and carry license just like their police counterparts. I grew up in California and shot guns all the time. Also, I'd argue that you've never seen pervasive gun culture like you do with gangs in California. They live by the gun and die by the gun. Its a problem. A big problem.
Legadian
level1
level1
Posts: 22
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:15 pm

Re: Gun rooms

Postby Legadian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:23 pm

Looks like we're getting an Armory.
User avatar
Smodd
level1
level1
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:22 pm

Re: Gun rooms

Postby Smodd » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:18 pm

We definetly WILL get armory... there are already pieces programmed in :P

Just take a look at this: http://www60.zippyshare.com/v/95328326/file.html

And this is only one thing which is in the code :wink:
conquestking
level1
level1
Posts: 23
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:22 am

Re: Gun rooms

Postby conquestking » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:39 am

I was talking about the draconian, non-functional, and constitution breaking gun laws in both commiefornia (where i live and study, for now) and new york. The gun laws unfairly restrict the use of arms from law abiding citizens, and ban most types of weapons. Commiefornia even has a ban by name list. This is only one dumb law out of many. As you said yourself, those laws are ineffective only target the taxpayers. Also I was talking about the armed and separated guards; I know normal guards don't get firearms, out of fear that a prisoner might get lucky. On the other hand, I would like to make a prisoner work/death camp in the future, perhaps with the help of mods.
conquestking
level1
level1
Posts: 23
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:22 am

Re: Gun rooms

Postby conquestking » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:42 am

conquestking wrote:(except commiefornia and new york)

are you trying to piss people off?[/quote]

Only if one was a gun grabbing, constitution hating, liberal, would this piss one off.

Return to “Community Members”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests