With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

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With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

Postby Gikgik » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:29 pm

Cells take in one prisoner.

Dormitories take in as many prisoners as there are bed places. If you designate a Dormitory with a bed (not a bunk bed), it is in practice the same thing as a Cell.

Are there any reasons to designate a Cell anymore, or are they redundant? Is there a reason to have two different room designations?
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Re: With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

Postby Brento666 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:09 pm

It's probably still best to isolate the real psychos...!
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Re: With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

Postby Mikeldiablo » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:43 am

Additionally, inmates also have a privacy need when they're in a shared cell.
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Re: With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

Postby Gikgik » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:02 pm

Dormitories only takes in one prisoner per bed place.

In other words, a Dormitory with only one regular bed, still functions as a cell, providing privacy and all.

Recently noticed that a Dormitory has a minimum size of 4 tiles per prisoner, and needs to be 2*3 tiles even though Small Cells have been researched.

The only functional reason to designate a Cell, is if you have Small Cells, and want to have a small cell.
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Re: With Dormitories, are Cells redundant?

Postby YMS » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:10 pm

I also fail to see the real difference between single-bed dormitories and cells.

- The Small Cells research does not affect the dorms. Yes, but I think this is a logic flaw. Why should a prisoner have the right for more space if his cell is called a one-bed dormitory? Why should he have more space if the cell is called a multi-bed dormitory? It would be good if the Small Cell research would remove the minimum size for dormitories as well, and perhaps reduce the needed squares per prisoner from 4 to 3 (which is the effective minimum for cells, since they still need a toilet and a bed, which take up 3 squares together - this way there would even be more floor space per prisoner in a multi-inmate dormitory, if you use bunk beds and less toilets than prisoners).
- The total number of dormitory inmates seems to be limited to 64 (http://bugs.introversion.co.uk/view.php?id=10322). But this is a bug (at least there is no explanation given for this, and the capacity still raises with more dormitory spaces).
- Placing desks in dormitories does not increase their rating, while the pool table does only for them. Also, kind of a flaw. Why wouldn't a desk in a dorm be of benefit for the prisoners, when it is in a cell? And sure, a pool table for one is kind of useless - but it still increases the rating in a single-person dormitory, just not in a cell. There should be a rating criterion like "a desk or a pool table per 8 prisoners" for both, rather than having different criteria in this single point.

I don't know what the IV guys plan to bring up next. The introduction of family cells and similar stuff in one of the next update might well bring some changes for the dormitory again. But the way they work just now leaves me clueless on why we have two rooms that do the same.

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