Regarding post counts...(READ BEFORE VOTING)

[sysrq]

but then useless posts still take points, it's a nice idea but could never actually come into reality.

[jim_the_coder]

I agree with removing post counts. However, there is another possible compromise; in a forum I post in a lot there's a "General Insanity" forum which is anything off-topic. Anything you post in there doesn't get added to your post count. Therefore, you post count rises only in the other important forums, where you actually help people out. This way it's the people who help the community the most who get credit for actually posting lots of useful stuff
About the point system, I reckon it'd be too open to abuse (as well as the fact Chris isn't likely to have time to bother with it). It's a good idea though...

[rob_quill]

I agree to a certain extent. I agree that it probably doesencourages spamming, but there are places which display posy counds and work fine such as Rllmuk becuase the moderators are good and control the spam.

Not to say that the mods here aren't good, but, I'd say as a rule of thumb, the better the mods, the less the spam.

Just my two pence.

Rob

[Gravitron]

A post count is none but a mirror for the troll to count the times his tongue chimes.

I would rather like to have a script reset mine on a monthly bassis.
If anyone wish to judge me, they can base on my shown knowledge and manner of conduct.

When I was just a bum kid I used to be very active within game communities, as a given, which in turn resulted me having a high post count.
Though I did not spam, I did not provide a much contributing content all the time.
As a result, people used to nitpick on my post count and call me names.

Besides, if people really want to go about braggings, they have their registeration dates, which ussually speaks more loudly than any post count.

[sysrq]

I agree with removing post counts. However, there is another possible compromise; in a forum I post in a lot there's a "General Insanity" forum which is anything off-topic. Anything you post in there doesn't get added to your post count. Therefore, you post count rises only in the other important forums, where you actually help people out. This way it's the people who help the community the most who get credit for actually posting lots of useful stuff
About the point system, I reckon it'd be too open to abuse (as well as the fact Chris isn't likely to have time to bother with it). It's a good idea though...

However on this forum and on the uplink forums the useless and spammy posts are in every single forum and topic, not just on off-topic.

[piratebob]

Statisically most video gamers are male and males will always find a way to measure one another's machiosemo against each. I really don't give the whole levels and post count much credence. Sure I feel good when I reach another level no matter the forum, but only but because I've had that many helpful or useful things to say. Spammers spam and trolls troll that's what they do no matter the system in place. If they can't spam or troll on one forum they'll go to another. Controlling spam and trolling is the job of mods and no automated counter or lack there of can do that for them.

[Me300]

I rather like the way Chris has it set up now.
And on a side note, am I respected very much?
Because that is something that I really care about.

[Flamekebab]

You really want that answered Me300?

Let's stick with post counts and levels - removing them is too much hassle and won't help particularly.

However - do you reckon you guys can stop posting quite so much?
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[coolsi]

Post counts wouldn't be a problem if some of you (naming no names) stopped posting total and utter shit...

[Iwudacus]

I agree. Forums aren't supposed to be places where people fight for respect and end up posting junk. I have nothing against some junk posted now and then, but if a topic is being addressed and people start throwing in all sorts of junk just to earn more posts, it starts being less cool.

What are the ranks for anyway? I can understand that maybe IV checks this to determine testers, but that even seems a bad-ish idea because, as mentioned, people post crap to gain ranks.

Problem is that to determine ranks at the hand of the quality of posts would be a very long manual process. I dunno, maybe the whole ranks thing should just be dropped? But that's just me.

Ra to intelligent people!
(not implying that those who disagree are stupid. I just find it nice that someone took the initiative to think of this problem)

[Hiryuu]

Get rid of them. Why bother with rank by posts? If you contribute enough then people will know you by sight anyway - you'll have *earned* respect. There's an argument that people who may have something to offer are intimidated and don't bother when all they can see on first glance is a load of people just getting as many posts as they can in to boost their rank/size of their virtual organ. There's also another one that people are deterred by what they see to be a hierarchy. A bunch of numbers means nothing. You're defined by your actions, not how many times you can hit the Submit button.

[NeoThermic]

. You're defined by your actions, not how many times you can hit the Submit button.

Actually they are linked. If you make one post, no matter how brillent or amazing, I doubt that you could turn up half a year later and have alot of respect. If you post decent posts frequently then you have enough material out there to gain respect on.

Atmitdly your posts must be more decent than spam, else you won't gain the respect you seak.
You'll notice that those on the Uplink forums that are respected alot, in basic terms, have a large number of posts. Stewsburntmonkey is a prime example, 7960 posts as of current. Everyone here admits that they have some form of respect for him. Although no one will admit that its due to his post count, its due to the content of his posts, and the number of posts he has is what gets us to that conclusion.


NeoThermic

[Hiryuu]

It's because he has high-quality posts and is around a lot that he has respect - but if they were crap, then no matter how many he posted, nobody would care. Content takes priority over volume.

Now let us all run over spammers with a lawnmower...

[Totallyout2lunch]

Great post and poll Epsilon.

I have always thought that it link was a very bad idea. I lurked on Uplink board for months before I dipped my toe in. Actually I lurk there stil. Just hardely ever post there anymore.

[Sirveri]

I think it's not going to matter. People will still spam to get a higher 'ranking'. and the rankings will become obvious after time. What, level one is ten posts. COOL! Spam party time! Level 2 is fifty! That's not gonna be hard. Honestly, I've been doing some pretty unconstructive stuff on THIS forum and I don't know why, but in general I try and be constructive.