[1.2.1] abysmal performance

[Shwart!!]

Two computers, both belonging to a friend of mine, are unable to run Multiwinia. The menu runs at a pretty consistent 0.9 FPS, regardless of the settings I set. This effectively means Multiwinia is unusable.

Their video cards are both ATI 9600/X1050 (whatever that means); they run most anything decently.
They each have at least 1 GB ram, and are not running dual-core processors.
The OS is XP pro, and is not the problem.

I have no idea what the problem is.

Also, if attempting to start a game, they crash.
Reference code: 3cf7c802

No blackbox.txt.
Crash report (modules snipped for space):

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Multiwinia caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module Multiwinia.exe at 001b:00000000.

Exception handler called in AppMain.

CRASH REFERENCE CODE: 3cf7c802

Error occurred at 11/5/2008 20:00:44.
C:\Program Files\Multiwinia\Multiwinia.exe, run by Link.
Operating system:  Windows XP (5.1.2600).
1 processor(s), type 586.
51% memory in use.
1024 MBytes physical memory.
494 MBytes physical memory free.
2462 MBytes paging file.
1933 MBytes paging file free.
2048 MBytes user address space.
1491 MBytes user address space free.
Read from location 00000000 caused an access violation.

Context:
EDI:    0x5ed03124  ESI: 0x1d7a8008  EAX:   0x00000000
EBX:    0x5ed02e48  ECX: 0x0012f990  EDX:   0x00700340
EIP:    0x00000000  EBP: 0x5ed02e54  SegCs: 0x0000001b
EFlags: 0x00010297  ESP: 0x0012f994  SegSs: 0x00000023

Bytes at CS:EIP:
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Stack:
0x0012f994: 005bc314 000084c0 5ed03124 1d7a8008 ..[.....$1.^..z.
0x0012f9a4: 0012fb6c 1ae11601 1d6e1d90 00000001 l.........n.....
0x0012f9b4: 42200000 00000010 00186ca0 1d7a8008 .. B.....l....z.
0x0012f9c4: 72726574 2f6e6961 65746177 616c5f72 terrain/water_la
0x0012f9d4: 68636e75 2e646170 00706d62 001640d0 unchpad.bmp..@..
0x0012f9e4: 00000001 1e143110 5ed26769 01350000 .....1..ig.^..5.
0x0012f9f4: 01350160 00000000 01350000 01350000 `.5.......5...5.
0x0012fa04: 1e133090 00000020 00000004 01350000 .0.. .........5.
0x0012fa14: 0001f80c 00000004 0012f978 0012f97c ........x...|...
0x0012fa24: 0012fa64 7c90ee18 7c910570 ffffffff d......|p..|....
0x0012fa34: 7c91056d 005fceca 01350000 00000000 m..|.._...5.....
0x0012fa44: 005fcee9 ba953513 5ed03124 0012faa4 .._..5..$1.^....
0x0012fa54: 1ae11601 1ae11601 0012fa48 0012fa4c ........H...L...
0x0012fa64: 0012fab4 005fe630 baec4367 fffffffe ....0._.gC......
0x0012fa74: 005fcee9 004552bc 1e133090 1e143008 .._..RE..0...0..
0x0012fa84: 01f17e90 00427a60 ba9535f7 5ed03124 .~..`zB..5..$1.^
0x0012fa94: 1d7a8008 1ae11601 01f17e90 01f037d0 ..z......~...7..
0x0012faa4: 00000012 3f000000 00000000 00000000 .......?........
0x0012fab4: 0012fb5c 00637008 ffffffff 005bd5c9 \....pc.......[.
0x0012fac4: ba9536cb 005bd5e8 1d6e1d80 1d7a8008 .6....[...n...z.
0x0012fad4: 5ed03124 00570f09 01f11b18 1ae11600 $1.^..W.........
0x0012fae4: 00595cb3 00000001 ba953597 00000a28 .\Y......5..(...
0x0012faf4: 01f11b18 00000001 0058f065 00000000 ........e.X.....
0x0012fb04: 00152306 0012fbb4 00000001 005fcee9 .#............_.
0x0012fb14: 42f00000 43870000 43aa6e2a 429e6666 ...B...C*n.Cff.B
0x0012fb24: 00447898 00000001 01ed8e40 1b067180 .xD.....@....q..
0x0012fb34: 0043f15a 1b067180 0043f16e 00000a28 Z.C..q..n.C.(...
0x0012fb44: 01f11b18 0012fce4 00000001 01ed8570 ............p...
0x0012fb54: ba95359b 0000008c 0012fbac 006452b8 .5...........Rd.
0x0012fb64: ffffffff 00000000 0012fce4 00596946 ............FiY.
0x0012fb74: 00000001 ba95341b 00000a28 00152306 .....4..(....#..
0x0012fb84: 0012fce4 00000001 00546ea0 0064bc64 .........nT.d.d.
0x0012fb94: 00000001 00000a28 00152306 00000001 ....(....#......
0x0012fba4: 00000a28 00152306 0012fcb4 006452e8 (....#.......Rd.
0x0012fbb4: ffffffff 0057bf04 ba9534a7 00000000 ......W..4......
0x0012fbc4: 0012ff10 7c90ee18 7c910570 ffffffff .......|p..|....
0x0012fbd4: 7c91056d 5ed78f2d 00150000 00000000 m..|-..^........
0x0012fbe4: 156f5f38 5ed7986b 010001a0 fd4b4329 8_o.k..^....)CK.
0x0012fbf4: 40650354 bf652b7a 40650686 00000000 T.e@z+e...e@....
0x0012fc04: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fc14: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fc24: 00000000 5ed1905d 00158568 2228f700 ....]..^h.....("
0x0012fc34: 0018733c 79616c70 00307265 5ed223f5 <s..player0..#.^
0x0012fc44: 00000540 7c90e10e 7c80a42b 0012fc70 @......|+..|p...
0x0012fc54: 0012fc58 00369e99 00000000 7c802442 X.....6.....B$.|
0x0012fc64: 0044b2fd 77d484bc 77d48564 000a0278 ..D....wd..wx...
0x0012fc74: 00000001 00000000 ba9534a3 77d85e9e .........4...^.w
0x0012fc84: 00000200 00000189 0000006f 0012ff20 ........o... ...
0x0012fc94: 0042e46e 00000190 0000012c 00000000 n.B.....,.......
0x0012fca4: 0064dd2c 0000006d 00000047 00000393 ,.d.m...G.......
0x0012fcb4: 0012ff10 0064456e ffffffff 0000012c ....nEd.....,...
0x0012fcc4: 1ae11600 0053ecbd 00000190 0000012c ......S.....,...
0x0012fcd4: 00000a28 00152306 00000000 0057c2ca (....#........W.
0x0012fce4: 0012ff20 0057c91e 0057ca07 00152306  .....W...W..#..
0x0012fcf4: ba953047 00000a28 00000002 00000001 G0..(...........
0x0012fd04: 445c3a43 6d75636f 73746e65 646e6120 C:\Documents and
0x0012fd14: 74655320 676e6974 694c5c73 4c5c6b6e  Settings\Link\L
0x0012fd24: 6c61636f 74655320 676e6974 70415c73 ocal Settings\Ap
0x0012fd34: 63696c70 6f697461 6144206e 495c6174 plication Data\I
0x0012fd44: 6f72746e 73726576 5c6e6f69 746c754d ntroversion\Mult
0x0012fd54: 6e697769 005c6169 00000000 00000000 iwinia\.........
0x0012fd64: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fd74: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fd84: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fd94: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fda4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fdb4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fdc4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fdd4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fde4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fdf4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe04: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe14: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe24: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe34: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe44: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe54: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe64: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe74: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe84: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fe94: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fea4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012feb4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fec4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fed4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fee4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012fef4: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012ff04: ba953047 0012fcf4 0012f5bc 0012ffb0 G0..............
0x0012ff14: 005fe630 baeca7f7 00000000 0012ffc0 0._.............
0x0012ff24: 0042e7a1 00152306 00606946 00400000 ..B..#..Fi`...@.
0x0012ff34: 00000000 00152306 0000000a ba9530a7 .....#.......0..
0x0012ff44: 00000019 0012f4f0 7ffdf000 00000044 ............D...
0x0012ff54: 001534f8 00153450 00153558 00000000 .4..P4..X5......
0x0012ff64: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012ff74: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
0x0012ff84: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ................
0x0012ff94: 0012ffbc 00000001 00000005 00000000 ................
0x0012ffa4: 00000019 0012ff40 632d10e4 0012ffe0 ....@.....-c....
0x0012ffb4: 005fe630 baec5f47 00000001 0012fff0 0._.G_..........
0x0012ffc4: 7c816d4f 00000019 0012f4f0 7ffdf000 Om.|............
0x0012ffd4: 8054b038 0012ffc8 853e3b30 ffffffff 8.T.....0;>.....
0x0012ffe4: 7c8399f3 7c816d58 00000000 00000000 ...|Xm.|........
0x0012fff4: 00000000 006069af 00000000          .....i`.....

debug.txt:

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Multiwinia retail.iv.1.2.1 built Oct 31 2008
WinSock started
Loading archive: init.dat
File init.dat, 16 files (0.032180 seconds)
Loading archive: amBX.dat
File amBX.dat, 30 files (0.088427 seconds)
OpenGL vendor 'Microsoft Corporation', renderer 'GDI Generic', version '1.1.0', extensions 'GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture'
Loading archive: language.dat
File language.dat, 8 files (1.319640 seconds)
Setting language to English (Test = 0)
Read 2418 strings: 0.098147 seconds
Failed to find text resource: data/strings_English.txt
Failed to find text resource: data/strings_default.txt
Available Memory:  630 MB Physical, 1689 MB Virtual. Sample Cache = 0 MB (0% in use)
Loading fonts
1 unicode bmps found: speccy
Finished building unicode textures.
1 unicode bmps found: editor
Finished building unicode textures.
1 unicode bmps found: square
Finished building unicode textures.
Fonts loaded.
Loading archive: main.dat
File main.dat, 559 files (9.908768 seconds)
Loading archive: menusounds.dat
File menusounds.dat, 18 files (0.439132 seconds)
Inits 1: 17.320492
Authentication key set : 'DEMOIO-RYYIMS-NVFUBS-SDJAWT-CDC'
WinSock started
Connection established to MetaServer, listening on Port 5009
Inits 2: 0.372077
Client listening on port 4001
Inits 3: 0.022834
Setting ProfileName to AccessAllAreas
Inits 4: 0.008001
Inits 5: 0.000008
Failed to find text resource: data/levels/level_enum.txt
Failed to load level_enum.txt
Inits 6: 0.066128
Inits 7: 0.000001
Inits 8: 0.000001
Inits 10: 0.392620
Inits 11: 0.238859
Inits 11b: 0.697847
Inits 11c: 0.000001
Received Authentication : DEMOIO-RYYIMS-NVFUBS-SDJAWT-CDC : (keyID -1) : Accepted
Auth Key accepted as DEMOKEY : DEMOIO-RYYIMS-NVFUBS-SDJAWT-CDC
Loading archive: sounds.dat
Failed to find text resource: data/input/keyboards/en_US.txt
Inits 12: 0.008744
Inits 13: 0.000201
Initialisation took: 23.316004 seconds
Available Memory:  569 MB Physical, 1610 MB Virtual. Sample Cache = 0 MB (0% in use)
File sounds.dat, 1297 files (3.499464 seconds)
Loading archive: sounds2.dat
File sounds2.dat, 6 files (0.012261 seconds)
PlayerNameString::Set called at 26.7954
Setting up page: Main (0)
Requesting data from MetaServer : Demo2Limits
Received data from MetaServer : Demo2Limits
Requesting data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Received data from MetaServer : LatestVersion
Requesting data from MetaServer : MOTD
Received data from MetaServer : MOTD
Available Memory:  534 MB Physical, 1533 MB Virtual. Sample Cache = 11 MB (81% in use)
sound thread blocked for 0.005717 seconds
sound thread blocked for 0.006264 seconds
Capture frame buffer 0ms
Setting up page: Tutorial Page (33)
Available Memory:  528 MB Physical, 1518 MB Virtual. Sample Cache = 21 MB (39% in use)
Capture frame buffer 0ms
Starting multi-player server.
Local IP address is: 192.168.1.116
CLIENT : Attempting connection...
CLIENT identity unknown.
Setting up Tutorial
SERVER: New Client connected from 192.168.1.116:4001
Int Data not found : dr
SERVER: Client at 192.168.1.116:4001 requested ID.  Sent ID 0 (syncrand -9950133).
SERVER: Largest datagram sent : 98 bytes
CLIENT identity unknown.
sound thread blocked for 0.007838 seconds
SERVER: Largest datagram sent : 615 bytes
CLIENT identity unknown.
Int Data not found : ew
CLIENT : Received ClientID of 0
CLIENT : Server version is retail.iv.1.2.1
 CLIENT : Setting sync rand seed to -9950133
CLIENT : Received HelloClient from Server
CLIENT : Requesting Team (Type = 0)...
Update to game string option 3 (we have version 0) and client gave version 1. null ==> mp_koth_2p_1.txt
Discarded update to game string option 3 because we have version 1 and client gave version 1
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
Game Option Array Element Int
SERVER: New team request from 192.168.1.116:4001
MetaServer enabling UDP broadcast for LAN discovery...SUCCESS
Started requesting public IP:port for socket 3268 (1D745518)
CLIENT : Requesting Team (Type = 0)...
MetaServer : LAN registration enabled
RequestIdentityThread for listener 1D745518 started
MetaServer : WAN registration enabled
Socket 3268 identified as public IP 24.41.44.170:4000
SERVER: New team request from 192.168.1.116:4001
SERVER: Failed to create new team - this client already has a Team
Requesting data from MetaServer : ServerTTL
CLIENT : Requesting Team (Type = 0)...
Zeroing achievement mask
CLIENT : New team created, id 0, type 0
CLIENT : Assigned team 0
Team 0 with Client 0 is DEMO PLAYER
Received data from MetaServer : ServerTTL
Authentication HashToken set to 1043337797
CLIENT : Requesting Team (Type = 2)...
SERVER: New team request from 192.168.1.116:4001
SERVER: Failed to create new team - this client already has a Team
CLIENT : Requesting TeamName Elderdork for team 0...
Setting Team name Elderdork at 157.0781
SERVER: New team request from 192.168.1.116:4001
CLIENT : Requesting TeamName Elderdork for team 0...
Setting Team name Elderdork at 158.8463
CLIENT : Requesting TeamName Elderdork for team 0...
Setting Team name Elderdork at 160.6201
Zeroing achievement mask
CLIENT : New team created, id 1, type 2
Team 1 with Client 0 is DEMO PLAYER
CLIENT : Received Start Game
Team name set to Elderdork at 160.6213
Time at call to EnterLocation() = 160.621692
Sending Keep Alive
Sending Keep Alive
Location::Init Step 1 took 0.185476 seconds
Location::Init Step 2 took 0.000012 seconds
Generated Heightmap in 0.173174 seconds
Generated OpenGL setup in 0.071668 seconds
Location::Init Step 3 took 0.246358 seconds
Water lightmap generation took 37ms
Location::Init Step 4 took 0.214876 seconds
Location::Init Step 5 took 0.000008 seconds
Tree generated in 53ms
Tree generated in 59ms
Sending Keep Alive
Tree generated in 61ms
Tree generated in 60ms
Tree generated in 62ms
Tree generated in 59ms
Tree generated in 61ms
Location::Init Step 5.1 took 0.440422 seconds
ObstructionGrid took 2ms to generate
Location::Init Step 5.2 took 0.007177 seconds
Location::Init Step 5.3 took 0.000003 seconds
Routing System intitialised in 13ms
Routing System intitialised in 34ms
Location::Init Step 5.4 took 0.050071 seconds
Location::Init Step 6 took 0.000001 seconds
AI Node graph rebuilt in 0ms
Location::Init Step 7 took 0.035462 seconds
Location::Init Step 8 took 0.000002 seconds
Zeroing achievement mask
CLIENT : New team created, id 4, type 2
AI Node graph rebuilt in 0ms
Location::Init Step 9 took 0.000342 seconds
Zeroing achievement mask
CLIENT : New team created, id 5, type 2
AI Node graph rebuilt in 0ms
Location::Init Step 10 took 0.000253 seconds
Location::Init Step 11 took 0.000002 seconds
Location Init: 1.196688 seconds
Sending Keep Alive
Sending Keep Alive
Sending Keep Alive
Sending Keep Alive
Sending Keep Alive
Team name set to Elderdork at 168.1043
Team name set to Elderdork at 168.1054
Warning: Deleting locked cached sample multilobbyamb1
Warning: Deleting locked cached sample evil


Shwart!!

[TomCat39]

Have you tried different catalyst drivers?

ATI fell behind on gaming stability.

NVidia has led the way for stability with gaming and also support for quite some time, even if they did lag behind in the performance department.

That being said, try different versions of the catalyst driver, more than likely, you can find one that works well with Darwinia.

[bert_the_turtle]

debug.txt:

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OpenGL vendor 'Microsoft Corporation', renderer 'GDI Generic', version '1.1.0', extensions 'GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture'

That says there is no OpenGL acceleration installed. It's probably Vista with drivers from Microsoft. As TomCat39 says, get recent drivers directly from ATI, that should solve the problem.

[elDiablo]

He said both were running XP Pro =/

[bert_the_turtle]

Oh, right. Still: Get proper drivers

[TomCat39]

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OpenGL vendor 'Microsoft Corporation', renderer 'GDI Generic', version '1.1.0', extensions 'GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture'

That says there is no OpenGL acceleration installed. It's probably Vista with drivers from Microsoft. As TomCat39 says, get recent drivers directly from ATI, that should solve the problem.

Not necessarily the latest/most recent. With Catalyst drivers, sometimes older versions are better for the games you happen to be playing. So you have to try a slew and see what works best for you. YMV sort of thing.

It's one reason why I got away from ATI and went back to NVidia. Less hassle.

[Shwart!!]

I've tried 6 different drivers. No change.

Shwart!!

[elexis]

Does another process have higher priority? Also, Get rid of your auth key.

How well do they run darwinia?

[Shwart!!]

DEMOIO-RYYIMS-NVFUBS-SDJAWT-CDC

What authkey?

I dunno about Darwinia; that would be good to check.
No, no other processes have priority; as it happens, Multiwinia uses the entirety of the CPU for both systems.

Shwart!!

[TomCat39]

Try rolling back to Catalyst 7.11 or earlier.

I was just reading that Second Life has issues with ATI cards like 9600 Pro from 7.12 up.

7.11 has OpenGL 2.0 support. 7.12 added 2.1 support. I think Catalyst 8.1 may be the beginnings of OpenGL 3.0 support but only on the newest cards.

I also came across a hotfix for catalyst 7.9 which I read was mainly an OpenGL fix of sorts.

hotfix: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/defa ... onID=20856

Previous Catalyst drivers: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vist ... sta32.html

AMD recommended uninstall technique: http://www.amd-firefly.com/firefly2007/ ... client.jsp

[Shwart!!]

Turns out Darwinia has a "Oh good god Darwinia just crashes!" issue on these machines.
I can't find a workaround to test performance ingame, but the world map is so slow as to be unusable.
Can't easily change the Catalyst drivers right now; it's not my computer, and I don't want to mess it up.

Shwart!!

[tabasco boy]

just curious what setup you have.

i got a
WinXP Pro
ATI mobility radeon 9000
1g ram
2.8Ghz processor and MW runs pretty happy so far

unless you got some god forsaken anti-virus which i find usually hogs up system resources.

[TomCat39]

just curious what setup you have.

i got a
WinXP Pro
ATI mobility radeon 9000
1g ram
2.8Ghz processor and MW runs pretty happy so far

unless you got some god forsaken anti-virus which i find usually hogs up system resources.

In the first post he said they are not running dual core processors, 1 gig memory and ATI 9600 and ATI X1050 video card on WinXP pro.

One thing I forgot about, AVG 8.0 seems to conflict with Multiwinia, not sure about Darwinia.

Oh, I forgot to ask, what version DirectX are those machines running.

Maybe it needs to be updated to DX9.0c?

[Shwart!!]

I'd love to, but... eh... I can't download DirectX.
Seriously, the internet browser crashes every time I try.

AVG doesn't conflict with Darwinia.

Plus, the system is allocating 96% of its resources to Darwinia/Multiwinia.

Shwart!!

[TomCat39]

Sounds like there is a ton of spyware/malware if the browser won't even operate to download DirectX.

Spyware and malware will cause havoc with any program.

Also there maybe serious problems with the registry. A bloated registry with errors can really bog a system down. Not only in running but in resources, boot up and shut down times.