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Multiwinia controls reversed

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:00 pm
by MrVulcan
Although I've always wanted to be able to use the SpacePilot in Darwinia, I have kinda gotten used to the keyboard controls. Now I try the Multiwinia demo...tap the E to go up...and find myself going down. :?:

This begs the question, why has Introversion reversed the Q and the E in Multiwinia, as compared to Darwinia?

I'd like to ask that this be corrected, or that an option be made to allow the user to reverse at least these keys - maybe even re-assign all of them.

Thanks in advance.

I made a poll to see how many users agree with me. I do hope that I accounted for all the answers that people would like to give. If I haven't, then feel free to let me know.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:29 pm
by Icepick
They are identical to Darwinia. They haven't changed at all (and I just double checked to be sure).

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:29 pm
by Tricycle21
Maybe it's for defcon users. I'm not sure.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:01 pm
by tals
I use the wasd keys and the scroll button to go up and down so not noticed an issue.

Tals

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:45 pm
by xyzyxx
I don't use Q and E, I use the mouse wheel. I am getting confused because I've been playing Spore lately, and it's bizarre control scheme requires to you scroll up to go down.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:46 pm
by The GoldFish
I use W and X and the mousewheel.

@_@

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:06 pm
by Phelanpt
*is baffled by TGF's control scheme*

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:37 pm
by NukeLord
Phelanpt wrote:*is baffled by TGF's control scheme*
Everyone who isn't TGF is.
xyzyxx wrote:it's bizarre control scheme requires to you scroll up to go down.
i think the basis in that is that you scroll the mouse wheel towards the screen (up), bringing you closer to what you're looking at (bringing the camera down), which makes as much sense as scrolling up to move the camera up.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:02 am
by MrVulcan
Icepick wrote:They are identical to Darwinia. They haven't changed at all (and I just double checked to be sure).


I just installed the patch to 1.5.11 on Darwinia, and now the Q and the E work like they do in Multiwinia - I had only used version 1.4.2 (or is it 1.42?) until just now. Having said that, I am certain that in Darwinia 1.4.2 (or 1.42) the Q and the E were reversed - Q took me down, and E took me up.

Icepick, you are among the developers of Darwinia...so, far be it from me to doubt your knowledge about it. Having said that, I double checked my findings...and they are accurate.

Is it possible that the keys have been switched around when these settings were moved to either the registry or another file? Personally, I can't find any other explanation. I'm wondering about this, because I just noticed that Darwinia doesn't work with the preferences.txt file anymore.

EDIT: Well, this is not entirely true. There is still a file named preferences.txt, but it has moved.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:40 am
by The GoldFish
Default 1.42 controls screenshot;

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PS if you're using vista, 1.5.X will use the savedgames folder for preferences.txt, rather than the program's running directory.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:26 pm
by MrVulcan
The GoldFish wrote:Default 1.42 controls screenshot;

Image

PS if you're using vista, 1.5.X will use the savedgames folder for preferences.txt, rather than the program's running directory.


Screenshots, of course! Let me add my own screenshot of Darwinia 1.5.11...

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...I think you'll find that the keys for UP and DOWN are indeed the other way around.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:35 pm
by MrVulcan
Icepick wrote:They are identical to Darwinia. They haven't changed at all (and I just double checked to be sure).


I just replied to someone else, but I doubt that you'll receive a notification about it. That's why I write this here, to make sure that you do receive a notification.

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:21 am
by DoubleFelix
I use the scroll wheel.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:37 pm
by TomCat39
I had to switch E and Q in Darwinia 1.4.2 from steam so that E was up. Originally it was E down and Q was up and it just didn't feel right. I think being right handed has something to do with the feel of wich key should be up and which should be down.

So once again, I fixed it in multiwinia too so that E was up being prior to version 1.2 E was once again down. I don't know about 1.2 defaults off hand being I've been running a custom input_preferences.txt file for quite some time.

I think the steam version 1.2.0 also has E as down by default but don't quote me on that.

All this is the English version btw.

Ciao.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:50 pm
by The GoldFish
TomCat39 wrote:So once again, I fixed it in multiwinia too so that E was up being prior to version 1.2 E was once again down. I don't know about 1.2 defaults off hand being I've been running a custom input_preferences.txt file for quite some time.

I think the steam version 1.2.0 also has E as down by default but don't quote me on that.


I only have the retail normally version of the game, and the input pref files suggest that no such chain has occured, unless I have failed in my file organising...