I don't want a real job - Part 1.

[martin]

Well I, and my game programming friends (admittedly only 2 others who I know IRL), all program with C# because of XNA, which of course is easy to use for people who've never done any Gfx programming before and runs on the xbox

[Pox]

Well I, and my game programming friends (admittedly only 2 others who I know IRL), all program with C# because of XNA, which of course is easy to use for people who've never done any Gfx programming before and runs on the xbox

Yah, C#/XNA is a great framework for getting something up and running fast... though I personally I prefer perl/allegro. Slow as hell at runtime, but very fast to get a working concept. Which is usually as far as I get.

[estel]

XNA is good and awesome; but there're good reasons that commercial quality games don't use it too.

[bert_the_turtle]

Not to mention that it won't give you that sweet true indie reputation you simply get by also supporting Linux and Mac

[Pox]

Not to mention that it won't give you that sweet true indie reputation you simply get by also supporting Linux and Mac

Indeed, though I wouldn't be surprised if XNA is ported to Mono sometime soon... it's feasible considering how far Mono and wine have come, though not worth it when there are [L]GPLed libraries available that are almost as easy to work with

[estel]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

[Pox]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

[Montyphy]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

[Pox]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

[martin]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

[Montyphy]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

I believe we already did, with his 'game programming' friend's physics/game engine.

[Acid Raw]

Thank you for the replies. found these last night:
http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/default.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/express/sample ... fault.aspx
Hopefully they will help me and others like me

[martin]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

I believe we already did, with his 'game programming' friend's physics/game engine.

what the fuck are you talking about?

[Montyphy]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

I believe we already did, with his 'game programming' friend's physics/game engine.

what the fuck are you talking about?

Yo' momma, what else?

[martin]

Butbutbut I was able to make a bouncing box in XNA with literally only 10 minutes of copying code!

...and I could do the same in Allegro or SDL. What's your point?

mock martin.

Brilliant plan! Where do we start?

I believe we already did, with his 'game programming' friend's physics/game engine.

what the fuck are you talking about?

Yo' momma, what else?

ah ofc