Notes from the Slippery Slope, part 3

The only place you'll ever hear the truth
User avatar
Chris
Introversion Staff
Introversion Staff
Posts: 1172
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2000 7:28 pm
Location: Cambridge, UK
Contact:

Notes from the Slippery Slope, part 3

Postby Chris » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:10 pm

Six weeks on and we’re still feeling the shockwaves from our Usability testing in Birmingham. Hilariously our project plan included a “generous” one week to incorporate any required changes based on feedback, and six weeks later I’m still busy. It’s not that the usability tests went particularly badly – in fact they ran very smoothly, and we were very pleased with the results, but they certainly identified massive problems in the understanding gamers have of Multiwinia, and that really did get me thinking.

For a long time I’ve considered usability and complexity to be opposite ends of the same scale, and this has always been a problem – you make something more “usable”, easier to understand and control, but you take away depth and complexity that make the task interesting or challenging. I’ve given this view a lot of thought since the usability testing, and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s a load of bollocks.

The current game industry masters of usability are undoubtedly Valve software (who might very well have rekindled my love of PC gaming single-handedly, such is the quality of the Orange Box). All three games are connected in one way that is relevant to this discussion – they are all extremely easy to get into, and none of them are dumbed down. Valve have totally nailed the sweet spot of providing an intuitive control mechanism, gradual training and feedback, and fast visceral rewards for success in all three orange box games. In particular, Team Fortress 2 is an extremely complex game on paper (as far as First Person Shooters go) – nine radically different classes with 3 different weapons each, with dynamic objectives moving extremely fast – yet somehow the game is trivially easy to get into and have fun. I’ve never once wondered what sort of enemy I was fighting, or what his strengths were. Valve are actually teaching you the mechanics of the game in the very animations that move the characters around. It’s all too tempting as a player to simply think “this game is simple, there was no need for a complex control mechanism” and not appreciate what they’ve achieved, but we know different because we’ve experienced those playtests in Birmingham on early versions of Multiwinia. You’d be amazed how basic left/right mouse control can confuse the player if you don’t make it intuitive and well explained, and it’s a big step to accept that this is your fault as a game designer, not their fault as a player. It’s one of those areas of game design that is totally invisible when it’s done extremely well, and fatal when done badly.

We should be starting our beta test process in January, and this will give us yet more feedback on the controls and from that we’ll make yet more refinements. It’s telling that Multiwinia is the first game we’re planning to release that does not include a tutorial (apart from the first Darwinia demo, but we shall strike that shocking mistake from the record in the interests of our personal sanity). Our aim is to reach those levels of usability that Valve have mastered – no tutorial is required, and most of the controls are obvious to the player, even though hours of work goes into making that the case.

Fundamentally I now believe that complexity and usability are orthogonal properties, rather than ends of the same scale. We shall see how effective this new viewpoint is once people start to play the game. Soon!
Last edited by Chris on Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Feud
level5
level5
Posts: 5149
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:40 pm
Location: Blackacre, VA

Postby Feud » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:28 pm

Ha! I make fun of IV's Dev Journal schedule in the reverse question thread and two hours later there is a new one up!

So, if I make a joke about the beta schedule could we be playing by Thanksgiving (next week for all you Europeans, Canadians, and other non Yankee folks)?
User avatar
zach
level5
level5
Posts: 1350
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:21 pm
Location: Denmarkia
Contact:

Postby zach » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:36 am

I feel I should reply to this, but as I only played Portal of The Orange Box (which I'd be inclined to say HAS a tutorial; the first twelve test chambers), I haven't really anything to say.

I like the thought of a graph with complexity and usability as the two-dimensional axes, that would be a bit like this post at indexed:

Image
I'll probably reply to this again later - that is to say, "when I think of something that will make me look smarter".
User avatar
shinygerbil
level5
level5
Posts: 4667
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:14 pm
Location: Out, finding my own food. Also, doing the shinyBonsai Manoeuvre(tm)
Contact:

Postby shinygerbil » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:46 am

The entire of Portal was a tutorial. It was kinda disappointing, but still worth it.

/me goes to clear January's schedule
Here is my signature. Make of it what you will.
Image
User avatar
Xocrates
level5
level5
Posts: 5262
Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:34 pm

Postby Xocrates » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:15 pm

I agree with the above. The fact that the tutorial is incorporated in the gameplay is not exactly the same as saying it doesn't have one. In most games the tutorial will teach you the very basics as control and stuff, but then the single player campaign is usually a huge tutorial where you slowly learn more tactics, and how to use certain units/weapons/objects etc.

I would like to exemplify with Dawn of War. The original had a tutorial and one campaign, but out of four playable races you could only play with one in both the tutorial and campaign, meaning that for a very long time that would be the only race you would be playing while slowly experimenting with the other ones (which meant getting stuck reading the tooltips/manual for every freaking unit, building, and upgrade the game had). Fortunately they fixed that in the first expansion.

So, long story short, feel free not to have a "tutorial", but if you're going to do so then please add a single player campaign.


I should probably add that from the orange box I also only played portal, so I'm unaware if TF2 has a single player mode or something. But one should probably point out that FPS have very standard controls so I doubt a big tutorial would be needed.
User avatar
KingAl
level5
level5
Posts: 4138
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:42 am

Postby KingAl » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:57 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:
Chris wrote:The current game industry masters of usability are undoubtedly Valve software (who might very well have rekindled my love of PC gaming single-handedly, such is the quality of the Orange Box).


I'm not so sure about this. Valve has shown to make great games, but I wouldn't say they're top of the bill. I can't say who is, but it just doesn't feel right to give Valve this credit.


Purely framing it from the perspective of usability, though? Considering the Orange Box both presents potentially complex concepts and combines it with great intuitiveness, I think it's fair to say. Contrast it with S.T.A.L.K.E.R., or even BioShock - wherein rather than working on elucidating concepts better, they merely simplified the concepts themselves (if one makes the fairly easy assumption that System Shock 2 was a starting point design-wise).
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here: this is the War Room!
Ultimate Uplink Guide
Latest Patch
Rkiver
level5
level5
Posts: 6405
Joined: Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:39 am
Location: Dublin, Ireland

Postby Rkiver » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:06 pm

Beta for January, should give me something to do when I am made redundant.
Uplink help: Read the FAQ
User avatar
frenchfrog
level5
level5
Posts: 2572
Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2002 7:11 pm
Location: Quebec

Postby frenchfrog » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:30 pm

Xocrates wrote:I agree with the above. The fact that the tutorial is incorporated in the gameplay is not exactly the same as saying it doesn't have one. In most games the tutorial will teach you the very basics as control and stuff, but then the single player campaign is usually a huge tutorial where you slowly learn more tactics, and how to use certain units/weapons/objects etc.


I just began playing Half-Life 2 Episode 2 (and I just finished Episode 1 before that) and it's a big tutorial on all aspects. It's very well done in 3 aspects, it's gradual, use explanation by example instead of by description, and ask for player creativity/intuition. Let me details them:

Gradual: Start with the basics like jump, crouch, use of basic _weapons_( gravity gun ). For the gravity gun in itself you learn to use it to destroy thing blocking your way, throw stuff at people. Then come the _puzzles_, you get shown basic gravity, lever effect, weight tricks, ... Same goes for the latter puzzles, always a bit harder then the last one, one more _trick_ is needed to solve it.

Explanation by example: First they use simple puzzles to teach you the basic concepts. But more importantly you are often shown a working or part of a working _machine_/solved puzzle before you need to solve a not-functioning one. (ex: They show you that gaz barrels can explode, you are shown a working computer with a connected power cord before needing to reconnect a power cord, you are shown that some _webs_ can be open by shooting into them, that valves can be opened, ...). And it sometime leads you to a very interesting question: 'How do they that?' How do I do that myself!

Creativity/Intuition: By the 2 previous items all puzzle are _explained_ to you, you then just need to put the parts together to solve the puzzle. I think this is the fun part, this is where your creativity is called for, the job is not done for you but at the same time you have all the needed tools.



I think this also have a really nice side effect: you are much more attentive to the world around you since you know there is always something to _discover_.



At time, it gets a bit tedious, greater subtlety would have been great. It's like in the movies when you see a knife/car/escape route at the every beginning and you say to yourself: "Ah! The hero will surely use this at the end of the movie to win over the bad guy". The other thing missing in this scheme is that difficulty rating don't apply to _puzzles_. It only apply to _beast health_ which is only a small part of the whole Half-Life 2 experience.
The Ultimate Uplink Guide (for any question on Uplink)
Latest Uplink Patch
User avatar
shinygerbil
level5
level5
Posts: 4667
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:14 pm
Location: Out, finding my own food. Also, doing the shinyBonsai Manoeuvre(tm)
Contact:

Postby shinygerbil » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:48 pm

frenchfrog wrote:It's like in the movies when you see a knife/car/escape route at the every beginning and you say to yourself: "Ah! The hero will surely use this at the end of the movie to win over the bad guy".


I agree wholeheartedly. I wish games would move away, but in many cases it's more a case of 'could' - for a game like Half-Life 2, to make such things as, say, an object which is crucial in solving the puzzle actually subtly blend in to the suroundings, it is then a much more complicated task to design a level, introducing many unnecessary items and scenery which would only clutter up the game.

At least we've sort of gotten away from the stage in games where items/objects which were static were very clearly and visually part of the 'background scenery' model, while objects with which you could interact were often lit using a different light source, used a radically different colour palette, and just generally stuck out like a sore thumb. That always used to make me so very mad. :(
User avatar
Feud
level5
level5
Posts: 5149
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:40 pm
Location: Blackacre, VA

Postby Feud » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:54 pm

shinygerbil wrote:At least we've sort of gotten away from the stage in games where items/objects which were static were very clearly and visually part of the 'background scenery' model, while objects with which you could interact were often lit using a different light source, used a radically different colour palette, and just generally stuck out like a sore thumb. That always used to make me so very mad. :(


I always found this funny when watching cartoons as a kid. I didn't understand then how they were made (with cells and layers and all that) so I kept wondering why the backgrounds were so different from everything else.
byrneda
level1
level1
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:47 am
Location: Dublin

Postby byrneda » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:06 pm

Well.
There you go.
The reality that just because someone says one thing, someone (or something) comes along and blows it away.
Way to go Chris. I likes what I read.
:D
martin
level5
level5
Posts: 3210
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:37 pm

Postby martin » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:39 pm

I hope you realise, chris, just how evil it is to put up a new picture on the front page without a link behind it? ¬¬

I soooo want to play multiwinia without being reminded every time I come to the IV forums! :P
GENERATION 22:The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
User avatar
KingAl
level5
level5
Posts: 4138
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:42 am

Postby KingAl » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:19 pm

I had a sneaking suspicion that the name 'Multiwinia' would prevail (assuming that's what this indicates...). I'd update the Wikipedia page myself but hotel-internet-on-TV is just downright painful, so - hop to it, people!
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here: this is the War Room!

Ultimate Uplink Guide

Latest Patch
martin
level5
level5
Posts: 3210
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:37 pm

Postby martin » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:44 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:You know, I always go to these forums directly, so I hadn't seen that new picture before you told me about it. It has cleared up one thing though: brice has won the naming contest so far.

Jelco

PS: To be honest, I thought I had posted that name myself. However, I was a little off.


I always go to the forums directly, but I just got a laptop (woo yay!) so I don't have all my favourites set up yet.
GENERATION 22:The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
martin
level5
level5
Posts: 3210
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:37 pm

Postby martin » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:20 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:I usually go here using my Opera Speed Dial, so pressing Ctrl-4 is enough. (Or I open up a new tab and click on the forums button.) But whenever I am at a place without Opera (read: without Opera Link) I manually enter http://forums.introversion.co.uk. It works fine for me.

Jelco


incidentally does anyone know how long it's been there? I mean I only spotted it because I happened to go via there and no straight here, so it could have been there for months for all we know :P
GENERATION 22:The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

Return to “Introversion Blog”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests