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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:00 pm
by paktsardines
To be fair, it's their first post. Not sure why anyone's mother needs to be harmed though...

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:42 pm
by xander
I'm calling it now: stealth spam!

xander

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:19 pm
by Deepsmeg
The worst kind!

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:23 pm
by bert_the_turtle
Probably, though it's not the usual copy-pasta, those get deleted right away. I have a bookmark watchlist for suspiciously generic first posts, this one is on it. Most of them forget to add the actual spam (or were real one post wonder users).

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:05 pm
by Colytic
Shame on you all! It's just someone with poor English skills that signed up to help a fellow human being in need...

This idea gaining any traction?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:11 pm
by xander
Colytic wrote:This idea gaining any traction?

I don't know. Does an empty pickup truck with rear-wheel drive and bald tires on an icy road get any traction?

xander

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:49 am
by Steamlite
Yes, I have read many article and content on E Cigarette all say same thing that it is not harm you. In one of the article i have read USA allow E Cigarette in public place. That also show it is not harm full.

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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:23 am
by Sildaekar
Steamlite wrote:Yes, I have read many article and content on E Cigarette all say same thing that it is not harm you. In one of the article i have read USA allow E Cigarette in public place. That also show it is not harm full.


Actually yes they are harmful, the nicotine in the e-cig is still a poison, also they have the capabilities to be even more harmful then normal cigarettes since they do not contain tobacco they cannot be regulated by the FDA.


EDIT:

Because they contain no tobacco, e-cigarettes aren't subject to U.S. tobacco laws, which means they can be purchased without proof of age, especially online. This raises concerns that e-cigs may be particularly appealing to kids and may encourage nicotine addiction among young people. And while manufacturers of the e-cigarette claim that it's the cigarette you can "smoke" anywhere, regulatory agencies around the world are taking a close look at these gadgets and instituting a range of restrictions on their use.

Source

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:02 pm
by xander
Sildaekar wrote:...they cannot be regulated by the FDA.

That is a loophole that is likely to be closed in the next couple of years. In fact, that seems to be the ultimate conclusion of the bit that you quoted.

xander

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:12 pm
by Colytic
Haha, I am victorious xander!

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:37 pm
by Sildaekar
xander wrote:
Sildaekar wrote:...they cannot be regulated by the FDA.

That is a loophole that is likely to be closed in the next couple of years. In fact, that seems to be the ultimate conclusion of the bit that you quoted.

xander



While e-cigarettes don't produce secondhand smoke, they do produce secondhand vapor. And even though manufacturers say that it's merely water vapor and therefore harmless, regulatory agencies and health experts contend that e-cigarette makers haven't conducted the research needed to prove this. Some individuals, particularly those with health conditions that make them sensitive, have reported that the vapor is irritating to their eyes, noses and throats, and that it affects their breathing and makes them nauseous. Opponents of e-cigarettes say people shouldn't be subjected to secondhand vapor until manufacturers have proven it to be safe for everyone, including children, the elderly and people with certain medical conditions.


Same source


...better?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:43 pm
by xander
Sildaekar wrote:
xander wrote:
Sildaekar wrote:...they cannot be regulated by the FDA.

That is a loophole that is likely to be closed in the next couple of years. In fact, that seems to be the ultimate conclusion of the bit that you quoted.

xander



While e-cigarettes don't produce secondhand smoke, they do produce secondhand vapor. And even though manufacturers say that it's merely water vapor and therefore harmless, regulatory agencies and health experts contend that e-cigarette makers haven't conducted the research needed to prove this. Some individuals, particularly those with health conditions that make them sensitive, have reported that the vapor is irritating to their eyes, noses and throats, and that it affects their breathing and makes them nauseous. Opponents of e-cigarettes say people shouldn't be subjected to secondhand vapor until manufacturers have proven it to be safe for everyone, including children, the elderly and people with certain medical conditions.


Same source


...better?

Seems to say the same thing... "Electronic cigarettes are new, and regulatory agencies haven't yet figured out how to deal with them, but they are trying, and will get there eventually." As with all new things, it takes a while for the law to catch up. Give it some time, and it is likely that the regulatory framework will eventually come into place.

xander

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:59 pm
by Sildaekar
xander wrote:
Sildaekar wrote:
xander wrote:
Sildaekar wrote:...they cannot be regulated by the FDA.

That is a loophole that is likely to be closed in the next couple of years. In fact, that seems to be the ultimate conclusion of the bit that you quoted.

xander



While e-cigarettes don't produce secondhand smoke, they do produce secondhand vapor. And even though manufacturers say that it's merely water vapor and therefore harmless, regulatory agencies and health experts contend that e-cigarette makers haven't conducted the research needed to prove this. Some individuals, particularly those with health conditions that make them sensitive, have reported that the vapor is irritating to their eyes, noses and throats, and that it affects their breathing and makes them nauseous. Opponents of e-cigarettes say people shouldn't be subjected to secondhand vapor until manufacturers have proven it to be safe for everyone, including children, the elderly and people with certain medical conditions.


Same source


...better?

Seems to say the same thing... "Electronic cigarettes are new, and regulatory agencies haven't yet figured out how to deal with them, but they are trying, and will get there eventually." As with all new things, it takes a while for the law to catch up. Give it some time, and it is likely that the regulatory framework will eventually come into place.

xander


Well in my defense I was just quoting something that I found from a quick search :oops: But my main reason is due to the nicotine in them they are still just as addictive (unless you get the ones without it).

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:12 pm
by xander
Sildaekar wrote:Well in my defense I was just quoting something that I found from a quick search :oops: But my main reason is due to the nicotine in them they are still just as addictive (unless you get the ones without it).

Have I contradicted that statement at any time?

xander

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:31 pm
by Sildaekar
Not once