So is Introversion dead?

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So is Introversion dead?

Postby Jazz Ad » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:17 am

I'm sorry if I sound blunt but as a long time supporter of Introversion and its products, I feel concerned about the current situation of the company.
Chris hasn't posted about the development of Subversion since last august and his last message on this very board dates back to october.
I don't see anymore updates, blog entries or any actual content coming from the company.
I'd really like to know what the situation is, even if it's not bright at all.
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Postby jelco » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:43 am

Honestly, I myself have no clue. My personal guess is that they need quite some time to work on Subversion and have hit a financial wall once again which is slowing down development immensely. The past shows that they're not particularly good at avoiding or handling those situations (no offense guys, but you know what I'm talking about). I've changed my outlook a bit recently and have decided that the most realistic prediction of the current situation leads to two possible future paths: either Subversion will continue this slow development path and enter testing about one year from now (maybe a little later but very unlikely to be earlier) or the company starts taking an indefinite underwater nap. So more activity in about a year, in about five years after a hopeful reboot, or never.

On a side-note, I'm pretty sure you're not going to get any direct answers from anyone with real inside knowledge because of such a post. Nothing suggests they're even checking the forums anymore (not even the comments to news/blog posts seem to incite replies) so any upcoming answer will probably not come sooner by asking this way. I can't blame you for trying though and do sincerly hope I will be proven wrong. ;)

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Postby Chris » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:59 am

Don't worry about it guys ;)

All is good, actually the best it's been for a long time. We have undoubtedly "gone dark", ie we are not posting news or blog updates at the moment, but we are enjoying some of the best times I've ever experienced at Introversion. It feels like we're back to the old days - just a handful of us, working on the next game at our homes, looking forward to the release. No multiplayer sequels, console ports of existing games or anything like that to worry about - just the Next Game, an original work. No more mining our 2005 successes. Financially all is good, we had a(nother) great Steam promotion over xmas, and we're even hiring some freelancers on the Next Game. It hasn't felt this good since Defcon to be honest.

I read the forums every day, but very rarely post at the moment. After part 20 of the Subversion blog, which roughly coincided with the live demos of Subversion at World of Love, I decided it was time to stop writing quite so publicly about the process. I also decided I wasn't going to write about that decision either. For a long while, writing publicly about Subversion was the right thing to do, and I got a lot of satisfaction out of it. But that has changed now, and I've got other priorities at Introversion at the moment. I'm a selfish individual really, blogs get written when I want to write them ;) I'm certain there will be future blogs, just not right now.

I'm not going to make any promises or be pushed into estimating dates or anything, because we all know how that always ends up. But we've got some good stuff coming, and I don't just mean Subversion. We've some surprises up our sleeves too.
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Postby elexis » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:15 am

THANKYOU CHRIS -

even though I know you said that just to prove Jelco wrong :P

I understand how the whole hush-hush can be a good thing, but perhaps a random screenshot of some random element of what you are doing every month or so would be good? Just to keep the rumor mill running ;)
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Postby jelco » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:28 am

Heh, interesting move Chris. :) I have to say though that I was pretty serious in that previous post about my outlook on things and I hope you realize you may want to improve your community relations a little if you want to keep such rumours from going around (I'm not the only pessimist around here). In any case it's good to see you're still alive because as you may have noticed from my tone I wasn't really sure about the fate of any of you for quite a while. :)

At least it's fun to see random other things being mentioned - Chronometer perhaps? ;)

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Postby ynbniar » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:15 am

Good news...hey I need another excuse to come visit London :)
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Postby Feud » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:34 am

Yay! :D
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Postby xander » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:39 am

Don't you mean "The Next Next Game?" or the "Forth[sic] Game?" or something similar?

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Postby Xocrates » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:50 pm

Yay! News \o/

Though I wonder...
Chris wrote: No multiplayer sequels, console ports of existing games or anything like that to worry about

I assume this means the previously mentioned Defcon PS3 port is dead, right?
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Postby Jazz Ad » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:27 pm

Thanks for the news Chris.
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xander wrote:Don't you mean "The Next Next Game?" or the "Forth[sic] Game?" or something similar?

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It may mean that Subversion got put on hold once more?
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Postby jelco » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Jazz Ad wrote:It may mean that Subversion got put on hold once more?

I don't think so (and sure don't hope so). The whole "The Next Game" thing is some kind of a meme around here as you probably know, and seeing as Subversion is an original work I'd say Chris talks about Subversion and not something else. I woulnd't know why Introversion would jump to another project in the middle of such a silent period when everyone is so looking forward to Subversion.

Obviously though I'm not very sure about which of my guesses are right and wrong, so interpret this however you like. :P

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Postby Greeba » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:30 pm

Had me worried for a moment there boys :)

Carry on!
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Postby cheesemoo0 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:08 am

Good to hear that progress is still being made on future games. It looks like Introversion is back to being bedroom programmers again. :)
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Postby xander » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:51 am

jelco wrote:The whole "The Next Game" thing is some kind of a meme around here as you probably know...

Weren't you here for most of that?

Before Darwinia was released, it was referred to as "The Next Game." In fact, Darwinia can, and legitimately should, still be referred to as "The Next Game." Some time around when Darwinia was released, Chris posted a plan for the future. He talked about "The Next Next Game" and the "Forth[sic] Game." I believe that Defcon is "The Next Next Game," and that Subversion is the "Forth[sic] Game." However, that post is ancient history, and may also have referred to Multiwinia, or Chronometer, or some other project.

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Postby Feud » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:11 am

cheesemoo0 wrote: It looks like Introversion is back to being bedroom programmers again. :)


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