neo1000 wrote:I strongly disagree. This would be censorship.
Spamatic wrote:Once upon a time there was a little 14 year old boy who sat under his duvet all day while it snowed outside, praying that "multiwinia for mac" would be released that day. This is the truth. I am his brother...
SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spamatic wrote:Once upon a time there was a little 14 year old boy who sat under his duvet all day while it snowed outside, praying that "multiwinia for mac" would be released that day. This is the truth. I am his brother...
SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xocrates wrote:Spamatic wrote:Once upon a time there was a little 14 year old boy who sat under his duvet all day while it snowed outside, praying that "multiwinia for mac" would be released that day. This is the truth. I am his brother...
SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And are you going to behave, or you'll do like your "brother" and get yourself banned?
xander wrote:neo1000 wrote:I strongly disagree. This would be censorship.
Personally, I dislike Cyan. I think he is an arrogant asshole, and that he behaves like a child (for all I know, he is a child). And if he were only banned for being a disagreeable little pissant, I might agree with you that his banning was inappropriate -- in fact, I disagree with Jelco's decision to ban him from the ladder (even if only temporarily).
However, everyone who joins these forums is asked to follow the rules, and attempt to get along with the natives. The rules are fairly lax by the standards of most internet forums (we don't have a lot of moderation here -- generally, the community self polices, and users are only banned for posting spam, i.e. advertisements). That being said, when someone makes a series of silly and meaningless new topics, it diminishes the utility of the forums for everyone. For long time community members, it creates a lot of spam for us to wade through. For newbies, it gives the impression that this place is an uncontrolled jungle, and, as the forums represent one of the public faces of IV, that image may extend to IV. For someone looking for technical support or gameplay help, the decreased signal-to-noise ratio makes it hard to find that help.
Thus, were I an admin, I would have revoked Cyan's posting ability when he started spamming. I probably would have made the revocation temporary (I believe this is what NeoThermic did). If Cyan had accepted the ban (or if he had created a new account and not acted like an asshole), he would have been able to post again (either as Cyan when the ban ran out, or as his new account handle immediately). Instead, he decided to act like a 3 year old and throw a temper tantrum. Surely that should not be acceptable behaviour.
In short, Cyan was not banned for what he said. Even if forums were regarded as places where free speech could be said to be the norm, Cyan's behaviour was a violation of the community, and a breach of the rules. There is no issue of censorship here.
xander
neo1000 wrote:Maybe I was mistaken by using the word "censorship". Ban Cyan from the from the forums is one thing (I agree) but an IP-Ban is different. I would really be upset if someone track me down via my IP or even think about it. This is a violation of my personal rights and I don't want this to happen to anyone else. No matter how much he is an asshole.
neo1000 wrote: I would really be upset if someone track me down via my IP or even think about it. This is a violation of my personal rights .
Rkiver wrote:neo1000 wrote: I would really be upset if someone track me down via my IP or even think about it. This is a violation of my personal rights .
No, it's not. When you post on here the admins and mods can see the IP you use to post from. Banning your IP is only a few button presses.
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