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Postby shinygerbil » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:22 pm

Bumping is acceptable (in my opinion) if the new post really has something relevant to add to that specific thread; that is, the thread itself must be fairly unique. Take for example, the thread for the GhostHack mod for Defcon. That's been bumped several times to say "no idea where our sound guy went, sorry" or "any news?". In that instance, while it would probably be perfectly acceptable to make a new topic, bumping is probably the most sensible thing to do. So long as you're polite. :P
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Postby KingAl » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:41 pm

xyzyxx wrote:I like this gosox character; he seems to possess a somewhat rational cognitive technique. That is a rare trait, here on the Internet.


When he punctuates, by god, it'll be the Sermon on the Mount all over again.

As shinygerbil says, bumping is fine if you're adding something new. Starting a new thread to discuss an old topic is just as silly as bumping, so the rule of thumb again is to search: find a thread that's already discussed the same thing if you can; if you're adding something, add it; if you're just rehashing, there's no need to repeat things.
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Postby xander » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:14 pm

Pox: One small correction to your post. It should really be "time since last post," not time since topic start. If an old topic gets bumped, then there is a window for flaming, and a slightly longer window for more useful comments.

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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:36 pm

KingAl wrote:
xyzyxx wrote:I like this gosox character; he seems to possess a somewhat rational cognitive technique. That is a rare trait, here on the Internet.


When he punctuates, by god, it'll be the Sermon on the Mount all over again.

As shinygerbil says, bumping is fine if you're adding something new. Starting a new thread to discuss an old topic is just as silly as bumping, so the rule of thumb again is to search: find a thread that's already discussed the same thing if you can; if you're adding something, add it; if you're just rehashing, there's no need to repeat things.


KindAl, are you talking about me, when you say "When he punctuates, by god, it'll be the Sermon on the Mount all over again."

because, yes, i am not very good at puncutation, it may be my age to blame, being only 14, or it may even be the way the internet has taught me to type(I.E.typing to friends, and such)
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Postby xander » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:43 pm

gosox wrote:
KingAl wrote:
xyzyxx wrote:I like this gosox character; he seems to possess a somewhat rational cognitive technique. That is a rare trait, here on the Internet.


When he punctuates, by god, it'll be the Sermon on the Mount all over again.

As shinygerbil says, bumping is fine if you're adding something new. Starting a new thread to discuss an old topic is just as silly as bumping, so the rule of thumb again is to search: find a thread that's already discussed the same thing if you can; if you're adding something, add it; if you're just rehashing, there's no need to repeat things.


KindAl, are you talking about me, when you say "When he punctuates, by god, it'll be the Sermon on the Mount all over again."

because, yes, i am not very good at puncutation, it may be my age to blame, being only 14, or it may even be the way the internet has taught me to type(I.E.typing to friends, and such)

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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:51 pm

yes, but you form habits, and techniques, and over time, it becomes hard to break those habbits and techniques
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Postby jelco » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:06 pm

When I first came on these forums I was 14 as well, and while I may have been an asshole at the time - regarding the contents of my posts - I certainly never missed out on punctuation and grammar (well, that last one for the most part, it developed over time :P). I have an incredible dislike of people using the writing habits they use for IRC, IM or texting in other situations where it's either not necessary, inappropriate or both. Those habits may be justified for their respective media (the aformentioned IRC, IM and texting) because when in a real conversation you'll want to type at the speed of your talking which mostly requires you to use abbreviations and the like, and regarding texting: it's just an incredible pain having to 'type' with that thing that's supposed to be a keyboard (and of course the 160 character limit).

On forums it's a different story. You can take your time when typing posts. Everytime I see a person using abbreviations like "IIRC", "TBH" or "IMHO" I get the urge to stab someone (preferably the poster). The same goes for other situations, like, say, real life.

Now, I know that English may not be your native language. But hell, it's not my native language either and you can see that I don't type like a moron. You learn to write with proper punctuation and that means you can and should apply it to any language you use. Grammar and the like is another story (except spelling).

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PS: This of course doesn't apply to the "/me" way of typing. That isn't a faulty way of typing, it's just a joking way of saying something.
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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:01 pm

i also dislike when people abbrievate, on forums, or in speach, but my natiave langauge is english, and for the most part my puncutation, is fine, i miss a few capitials, and a few periods, but i have no lack of comma's ever
but anyways, i think as we are on the subject of grammar and such, that it's better to use proper grammar on the internet, only to keep from looking like an idiot, but also, there are MANY misinterpurtations that can happen if abbreviate, or miss spell things, i may not use perfect grammar, but i feel as if i don't need to, as i get my point across suffeciently
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Postby jelco » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:16 pm

gosox wrote:i miss a few capitials, and a few periods

Wrong, you miss all of them except when it is not needed, like your "MANY".

gosox wrote:i have no lack of comma's ever

On the contrary, you have an overabundance of commas. And just in case you didn't know, periods and capitals are far more important than commas.

gosox wrote:there are MANY misinterpurtations that can happen if abbreviate, or miss spell things

You even misspelled "misspell", need I say more?

gosox wrote:i may not use perfect grammar, but i feel as if i don't need to, as i get my point across suffeciently

Your grammar may not be the subject of righteous criticism, but there are lots of other factors to getting your point across sufficiently which you fail at.

I hereby label you a writing-impaired idiot and you will need to change your writing habits entirely before I take that label off again.

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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:23 pm

:)
i'm very glad that you are labeling me as an idiot, from my spelling, and my grammar, where-as i could be very intellegent, but i'm not going to waste much more time on you then what i already have, it's the people like you, that bring the internet to where it is, people should be allowed to spell, and use grammar as they please within a certain range of misshapps, and i think i'm very much in that range, i may not have perfect grammar nor spelling, but i really don't care, it's the internet, and the internet is virtual, and virtually, i don't care about my spelling, so there you go, have a nice day
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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:26 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:
gosox wrote:i miss a few capitials, and a few periods

Wrong, you miss all of them except when it is not needed, like your "MANY".

my only reason for using capitals there, is to emphasize the word
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Postby jelco » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Thanks for confirming my suspicions of you being an ignorant retard as well. Now go bother someone else.

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Postby bert_the_turtle » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:29 pm

Judge Jelco has spoken.
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Postby gosox » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:32 pm

considering you brought this topic "off-topic" lets get back onto topic, i think there is a limit of which people should get flammed for when bumping old topics, whether their content is of relevence, or not, maybe a non-relevent post, bumps the topic, and more people get interested, just my point of view
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Postby zjoere » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:39 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:Thanks for confirming my suspicions of you being an ignorant retard as well. Now go bother someone else.

Jelco


He is a bit correct on the spelling bit though. According to some profesor all the spelling that a computer can't recognize(like d/t rules) will disappear from our language in 10 years. Beside all spelling is artificial and part of an artificial languauge. The language people use can't be caught in rules. And besides the spelling will change if enough people use it wrong. :wink:

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