Radiant Caligula wrote:
How often do you hear "eight people murdered in city mall" from Russia? Or "32 people killed in killing spree on university campus" from Brazil? Or "6 people killed in office by recently fired man" in South Africa? You hardly have to be an expert in statistics to figure out that the US is world leader in gun nuts gone crazy. The global news is fed with US massacres on a steady basis. If America was a warzone or destabilized country it would be considered "normal", but the USA is a "functional" state that is considered "advanced" in many ways. Why do you produce so many gun nuts?
Well, I seem to remember something about a school massacre
and a theater massacre
in Russia that produced far more bodies then the average American shooting does.
Every country has their problems. France has rampant racism and riots, Britain isn't far past decades of bombings and shootings due to their Ireland issues, Germany had the Red Army Faction not too long ago killing all sorts of people, not to mention the soccer riots. Everyone has issues, violence is by no means exclusive to America.
Radiant Caligula wrote:The US is a continent more than it is a single country and your "freedom" has established some of the biggest cultural and social/economical differences of any melting pot in the world. The combination of extreme riches next to millions of people living under the international poverty line is bound to create lots of friction. Add easy access to guns (in general) and you have a volatile mix.
Canada is larger then the United States, so there goes the silly "continent" idea. Your next argument also comes up short, you talk about poverty and socio-economic issues, yet in the shootings that make the news that you keep talking about the shooters are almost exclusively from middle class families. You seem to want to ignore facts in order to push your social views of America, which isn't cricket.
Radiant Caligula wrote:I think the American culture is in love with fictionalized violence and it has a historical record of solving many international conflicts with pre-empive force rather than diplomacy. When a culture has gone blind to its own love affair with cultural violence and almost is unable to tame its own military muscles abroad, I see a pattern emerge. I don't say the general American public is positive to the use of force on a personal basis, but when violence becomes so incorporated into the fabric of the society I think it is inevitable for it to manifest and reproduce itself everywhere.
This is the same argument that is used to ban violent video games. So, unless you wish to ban Defcon lest it turn us all into genocidal madmen due to it's contribution to this culture of violence then perhaps this point should just be dropped.
Radiant Caligula wrote:Having a gun nearby greatly increases the chances of you using it. It's really simple arithmetic. It's like having packets of cigarettes around when you're trying to quit. If you were unable to get more cigarettes anywhere your chances of quitting would drastically improve. And when you're trying to quit and suddenly meet people in a social settings who offer you a stick, you are likely to crumble under peer pressure and "have that final blow".
This argument is down right silly. Of course having a gun nearby raises the chance that said gun will be used, just as having an automobile around raises the chance you will drive it (it's hard to drive one if there isn't one around after all). But, the argument says nothing of improper use. Should we ban all automobiles since some people drive drunk? After all, having an automobile around increases the likelihood that someone will drive drunk. Or instead should we only punish those who actually do drive drunk?
Radiant Caligula wrote:I think the issues with shootings and and violence are a mix of many really simple explanations, but the biggest deciding factor wether a society can reduce gun violence and public massacres basically comes down to one word: accessibility.
Again, facts are against you on this one. Switzerland and Israel both have incredibly high rates of accessibility (rivaling those of America), yet very low rates of gun violence.
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