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What is your religion?

Christianity
21
35%
Islam
1
2%
Judaism
0
No votes
Hinduism
0
No votes
Buddhism
2
3%
Chinese
1
2%
Asian Tribal
0
No votes
Other Asian
0
No votes
African Tribal
0
No votes
Spiritism
0
No votes
Philosophical
1
2%
Modern
0
No votes
None
3
5%
Other
2
3%
Agnostic
7
12%
Atheist
22
37%
 
Total votes: 60
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Religion

Postby jelco » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:46 pm

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What religion do you have? - A companion poll to the afterlife topic of last summer

So, confirming the continuation of the Weekly Poll quite definitely now, I decided to go with a somewhat...controversial setup this time. To prevent any mishaps, here's a long list of points to read before you post.

- Chinese includes the known religions Taoism and Confucianism, as well as the 'folk religion'.
- Other Asian covers the religions Shinto, Caodaism, Chondogyo and Yiguandao - from Japan, Vietnam, Korea and Taiwan respectively. Of course any other smaller beliefs with Asian origins (except indigenous) are also included. The somewhat unkown Indian religions Sikhism and Jainism go here too.
- Spiritism should be interpreted broadly. I am talking about any belief which involves spirits 'leading their own life' without a body (don't argue about this definition, it's really hard to explain this!). The most notable example in the last few decades (I believe) is Shamanism
- I had a hard time deciding whether Scientology should be included. In the end, I decided this would be a bad choice; with 500,000 adherents, it is one of the smallest religions on the planet, and it would therefore be unfair to include this while leaving out other larger religions. I came up with the option Philosophical for those religions. I know there's more than just Scientology.
- For any religions that exist for barely three centuries, I created the option Modern. Yes, Scientology could possibly be interpreted as a Modern religion too. But with this option I'm aiming more at beliefs like Satanism, Bahá'í and stuff like UFO religions.
- None is not the same as being an atheist. If you vote this option, it means you don't have any particular beliefs, but also don't deny the existence of a God or someone/thing spiritual. There's very few who can truly be classified as being this neutral, I think.
- These are easy to confuse, so here's a quick freshing-up: Agnostic means not being sure about the existence of a God or something/one spiritual, you are an Atheist when you completely deny these things.

Note that I simply don't have the space to list all subreligions (like Mormonism, which I've seen mentioned quite a few times around here). If I would list some, I'd be scolded for leaving out others. Since there are so many, I'm not going to take those chances (nor do I have the poll options).

If you don't have anything more to say than any of the following: 'Missing option.' / 'I don't care.' / 'They all suck.' / 'Religion X is the best!' - I have a simple but urgent request to make: Shut up, and sod off. I've had these kinds of remarks far too often in previous polls, and I will not take it any longer. That's the line. If you cross it, I will ask the help of NeoThermic to set things right.

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If you hadn't already noticed, I'm a convicted atheist. A nihilist too, but that's a little beside the point.

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Postby Mas Tnega » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:01 pm

From what I understand between the collective rabid foam and rhetoric:
To the deist, a god is everything beyond human comprehension, personified.
To the atheist, a god is everything beyond human comprehension, personified.

If two polar opposites agree on what a god is, then something stupid's going on and I think I'll wait until they resolve that before taking sides.

Being sceptical and all, I ignore the other stuff too. Some of it is quite silly, some of it is outright stupid, and some even self-defines as meaningless in and of itself.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:11 pm

I would have to say 'Christianity'. However, most of modern Christianity is really just Churchianity and I'm going to point out that Webster defines Christianity as "the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies". While I believe I'm a follower of Christ, I don't have the same beliefs as Eastern, Roman Catholic, or Protestant 'bodies'. :wink: I.e., don't celebrate or believe in Christmas or Easter and other such so-called 'Christian' practices.
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Postby jelco » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:21 pm

I know, and I mentioned this in my post. But I think these options will show a general outline what forms of religion are more common among the people in this community. After all, that is the goal of this series of polls: to get an idea of other people's interests, and to get the conversations started on these subjects.

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Postby Mas Tnega » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:28 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:I know, and I mentioned this in my post. But I think these options will show a general outline what forms of religion are more common among the people in this community. After all, that is the goal of this series of polls: to get an idea of other people's interests, and to get the conversations started on these subjects.

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Postby Hyperion » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:39 pm

Agnostic for me :)
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Postby MikeTheWookiee » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:02 pm

Atheism here. Although I try not to be one of the mad shouty ones always criticising others' religions. Taking the piss when the people make rather odd / stupid claims (from my point of view) is, on the other hand, completely justified...
Yes it does get you in trouble, but there's no fun without the arguments about silly things. Arguing about the big stuff is just not going to get anyone anywhere, but the little things are fair game.
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Re: Religion

Postby Feud » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:24 pm

jelco the galactaboy wrote:
Note that I simply don't have the space to list all subreligions (like Mormonism, which I've seen mentioned quite a few times around here).



Don't worry about it, we are perfectly happy (and prefer) to be classed under Christianity.

As the above makes clear, my vote goes Christianity, even though, like Ace, I don't fall under the Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant category (depending on who you ask).
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Postby xander » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:44 pm

Mas Tnega wrote:To the deist, a god is everything beyond human comprehension, personified.
To the atheist, a god is everything beyond human comprehension, personified.

The deist says: "Ah, there are things that we do not understand. It must be god[s|es|esses]."
The atheist says: "Ah, there are things that we do not understand. We should investigate them, and hope that we might understand them someday."

Atheists generally do not define what god is, as it is damn near impossible to define something that doesn't exist. So, I would disagree with your statement that atheists and deists agree on how to define god.

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Postby martin » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:06 pm

I have to say christianity because I've been bought up like like, but I'm swaying more to agnostic.
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Postby All American Mobster » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:36 pm

I wondered how long it would be till this came up. I would've done it myself, but i wasnt in for criticism :wink: But I say Christian. Why is it some people say 'im this, but im swaying more towards this'? Just curious. Nobody has to answer that by the way.



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Postby Shwart!! » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:39 pm

I believe that there is a god, and that he made the universe to be completely self-sustaining, following its own laws with everything having a logical cause and effect.
I believe this because God (by defenition) is perfect, and so his large creation would be also perfect, and a self-sustaining universe (i.e. doesn't need maintainance or upkeep) is the most perfect way to make one.

Thus, I believe that there is a god, and if there is something I don't understand, it came from God, but "we should investigate them, and hope that we might understand them someday."


Just to prove that xander's two examples aren't mutually exclusive. :P

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Postby Pox » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:46 am

I'm definitely in the 'athiesm' crowd, and I confess to enjoying poking holes in christianity and islam (is that the noun? I've gone blank) - although I do try not to be offensive. I know many religious people who I'm very good friends with, but I do get annoyed when someone tries to push it on me... and then I have to pull out the Heirophant's Proselytizer Questionnaire. ;)
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Postby KingAl » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:57 am

Cargo cult. Hail the great metal beast.

All American Mobster wrote:Why is it some people say 'im this, but im swaying more towards this'?

Because they believe the former, but have doubts about it.
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Postby All American Mobster » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:49 am

Oooo.



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