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Postby Radiant Caligula » Tue May 01, 2007 1:42 am

niksonpsi wrote:Radiant Caligula:
C'mon. You know nothing about the situation on Israel.
You are only hearing what the press says.
You don't live in Israel, do you?
Like the last year with the Hezbollah-Israel conflict. Guess which side had altmost the full support of the World?:
Hezbollah
Why? Because nobody likes Israel.
Yes. Israel is armed to the teeth because any single outbreak on israel would cause a large-scale conflict. believe me
I think that the UN and Israel itself offered palestinians a lot of room in Israel, but they didn't accept it: The palestinians wanted everything.
They do treat them like human beings. But they don't want to be treated like that.
Guess how many Palestinians are doctors, lawyers, etc...
And this is an interesting fact: Maybe you are right, Israels soldiers sometimes (not always) kills more than 1 palestinians for 1 Israeli. But why? Because they want to make the rest of the world hate israel.

Oh, and Syria... thats the country you should be aware of...

that's all


niksonpsi wrote:And this is an interesting fact: Maybe you are right, Israels soldiers sometimes (not always) kills more than 1 palestinians for 1 Israeli. But why? Because they want to make the rest of the world hate israel.

What "fact"?? What are you rambling about? I dare you to look up the death toll figures from the second intifada before you throw out ignorant, self-cancelling statements such as this.


You accuse me of knowing nothing about this conflict and yet you rant like a deaf, blind goat at a rave party.

"They do treat them like human beings" ++ is enough for me to step back from my debate with you, sir.

Good day.
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Postby niksonpsi » Tue May 01, 2007 1:59 am

Well, In my school we've a class that teach us all about israel (past and present) and, we in my country suffered many *things*(for lack of a correct word) because of hezbolla thing. Everybody started to do sort of Parades, babbling the same thing as you are doing right now.

So, don't criticize me because all i've said. because, as i said earlier, you only know only one side of the history and problem


p/s: yes, I may have said some contradictory statements. (well not *may*)[/i]
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Tue May 01, 2007 2:05 am

niksonpsi wrote:Well, In my school we've a class that teach us all about israel (past and present) and, we in my country suffered many *things*(for lack of a correct word) because of hezbolla thing. Everybody started to do sort of Parades, babbling the same thing as you are doing right now.

So, don't criticize me because all i've said. because, as i said earlier, you only know only one side of the history and problem


p/s: yes, I may have said some contradictory statements. (well not *may*)[/i]


Um, I would consider doing damage control with anything but a sledgehammer? :shock:
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Postby Rkiver » Tue May 01, 2007 9:20 am

Isreal should not exist.

You heard me. (Ok read it). Dumping that country there after WW2 was a bloody idiotic thing to do and resulted in destabilising the entire region.

Isreal is as bad as the other countries there with their actions, so don't try and paint them in this whole "we suffer" light. Stop being violent thugs, learn to get along with your neighbours. And yes Iran and Palestein should also learn to get along, it's not just Isreal that is the issue here.
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Postby niksonpsi » Tue May 01, 2007 5:48 pm

okokokok.
well THAT'S is going beyond...
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Tue May 01, 2007 6:23 pm

ScareyedHawk wrote:I like Israel.


Infected Mushroom is nothing short of a miracle.



I have no beef with the Israeli people, however I am highly critical of Israel's security policies and their strategic thinking.
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Postby niksonpsi » Tue May 01, 2007 6:50 pm

Israel isn't about music, it's about a country that fight its way to coexist with its neighbour countries. Egypt, Jordany and Lebanon have a "neutral" status with Israel, however Syria still attack Israel with the support of the Irani Nation.
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Tue May 01, 2007 9:05 pm

niksonpsi wrote:Israel isn't about music, it's about a country that fight its way to coexist with its neighbour countries. Egypt, Jordany and Lebanon have a "neutral" status with Israel, however Syria still attack Israel with the support of the Irani Nation.


and you think being obnoxious, brutal, self-important bullies makes the situation any better?

nothing, absolutely nothing justifies how Israel treats the Palestinians. Sure blood are one their hands too, but when will Israel figure out that ethics can do wonders for pretty much any scenario?
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Postby Klips » Tue May 01, 2007 9:26 pm

Due to my main language is not English, will I appoligise for every spell and gramma mistakes.

I don't believe Iran would trigger the 3rd world war, nor do I believe that they would ever use the nuclears in an offense. Though we are dealing with an deeply religious government in Iran, they still share a will to remain in power. By making nuclear weapon as defense, they have ensured that. They don't wish to begin a war agains the western world, because that would only take away their beloved power. There are plenty of groups who can terrorize Israel and USA, wich the western world can't point out and target, and that is enough for Iran. They are not stupid enough to begin dancing in a minefield by dropping atomic bombs against USA or Israel, when they can get other people to do it.

That is why Radiant Caligulas point in rogue bombs is more relevant, because we know for a fact Iran is supporting different millitant groups. Because of that, there is a huge chance that Iran would give the bomb trigger to another person, so they always could point at him when he blows up the world.
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Postby xander » Tue May 01, 2007 9:45 pm

Klips wrote:Though we are dealing with an deeply religious government in Iran...

Contrasted to... what? the deeply secular government of Israel?

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Postby Klips » Wed May 02, 2007 6:03 am

In contrast to the western governments, if we are not counting GWB and his fellow christian conservative members and the Zionistic Israel, but maybe I should a explained it in a different way.
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Postby niksonpsi » Wed May 02, 2007 6:07 pm

Radiant Caligula wrote: and you think being obnoxious, brutal, self-important bullies makes the situation any better?

nothing, absolutely nothing justifies how Israel treats the Palestinians. Sure blood are one their hands too, but when will Israel figure out that ethics can do wonders for pretty much any scenario?

do you still believe that Israeli soldiers are in a "palestine hunt"?

if you think that, you are far more stupid than I think.
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Postby Radiant Caligula » Wed May 02, 2007 6:18 pm

niksonpsi wrote:
Radiant Caligula wrote: and you think being obnoxious, brutal, self-important bullies makes the situation any better?

nothing, absolutely nothing justifies how Israel treats the Palestinians. Sure blood are one their hands too, but when will Israel figure out that ethics can do wonders for pretty much any scenario?

do you still believe that Israeli soldiers are in a "palestine hunt"?

if you think that, you are far more stupid than I think.


Where 'O where did I say that?

You're very good at debating with yourself. On second thought, you're not.
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Postby KingAl » Thu May 03, 2007 9:30 am

niksonpsi wrote:do you still believe that Israeli soldiers are in a "palestine hunt"?

if you think that, you are far more stupid than I think.

Whether intentional or not, the Palestinian body count does appear to be higher than that of the Israelis.

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