The Ghost Ninja wrote:For starters both Inteligent Design and evolution require faith.
No, evolution requires no faith (unless you count faith in observed reality). It is a clearly observable phenomenon.
Nobody was around when the earth started. So you have to belive that it was started one way or the other. Now how do we get the dates of stuff we find in the ground, we date it. But the problem there is that the dating system is screwed up. What they do is they check the fossils against the rock formations and say that if it was found so far deep it is older. Then what they do is say that the rock is so old because of the type of fossil in it. It is currcular resoning and doesnt work.
That is simply not true. They do date things based on where they are in the geological layers, but they don't date everything relatively. They use other methods to positively date certain items in a layer. Generally they use several methods for dating objects so that any errors in testing can be found.
Also evolution isn't concerned with how the earth was formed.
Also carbon-14 doesnt last forever so thats out. And even though it does last a while who says that the sample that they test wasnt bombarded with sun rays so that it decayed faster then normal.
Carbon 14 testing (and other radiometric dating methods) are generally very accurate. Scientists however do not depend solely on these tests. They are very careful to use multiple tests and to make sure all the tests give similar dates.
Now i believe in the Bible. If someone can disprove just one fact in that then i guess you have a point, but in fact no-one EVER has disproven anything in the Bible.
Give me a break. The Bible contradicts itself is several instances, so you can't take the Bible as entirely accurate. To do misses the whole point of Christianity (at least as far as I am concerned).
That being said if you can find me a science book that has made prophecys that come true 2000 years later than i think i would believe it wouldn't you?
I can make predictions that will come true in 2000 years (ie "someone will die on this day 2000 years from now") does that mean everything I say should be taken as gospel? I think not.
And in fact thats what the Bible did, it made a bunch of prophecys and they came true.
It helped that the Bible was compiled from lots of different writings after the fact. . . It's not all that hard to compile a book to fit the facts after they happened.
And there are still more that have yet to happen. Why is the Bible so important? Because it says God created the world and everything in it. And if the Bible is true, then guess what, God DID make the world. If you look the the Bible at Genesis 5 it has an account of the men who lived and for how long. If you study that and a few other thing you will find that according to the Bible the earth is only 9,000 years old MAX. So i guess if there is only 9,000 years to evolve there isnt much going on is there.
Except even most Christians believe the time spans given in the Old Testament to be more parable than fact. All evidence points to the earth be a good bit older than 9,000 years.