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Postby shinygerbil » Sat May 20, 2006 10:11 pm

xander wrote:Another note on origin: toilet comes from French. Originally, the term had nothing to do with execution of bodily functions. It refered to a room where a woman could apply make-up and otherwise freshen up. One might apply perfume during one's toilette, hence toilette water.

And, unlike my last post in this thread, I am not making any of this one up :)

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Indeed, in old English texts, getting dressed, shaved, etc. in the morning is referred to as "making one's toilet". Always thought it was a strange phrase, either way.
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Postby Stewsburntmonkey » Sun May 21, 2006 12:32 am

xyzyxx wrote:Indeed, I'd like to know what stewsburntmonkey would consider "proper" English.


There is a reason I used the word "might" and put "proper" in quotes. You can't define proper English absolutely. However one could use a variety of metrics. The traditional definition of standard British English would be the form spoken by the upper-class Londoners or by the Monarch. You could also use English as used at Oxford if you wanted. However you don't need to nail down a "proper" form of English. My statement is valid simply given the variety of English dialects in the UK versus the variety of English dialects in the US. No matter what form of English you label as "proper" the result will be the same. :)
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Postby Montyphy » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:13 am

Queen's English is a little different to proper english :wink:
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Postby Lowell » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:19 am

When I think of a torch…I imagine a piece of wood with cloth soaked in tallow then lit, for the light from the flame…not a Flashlight…for that I need batteries.

Back in the Victorian era, the girls wore corsets. They would have fainting chairs in a sitting area connected to the girls “restroom.” It was impolite to say the word toilet in wealthy homes. The gentlemen would retire to the study for cigars and stories...the ladies would loosen the clamps and tell jokes and rest. I guess the girls would really crank those things tight...many would near faint from lack of oxygen; it must have been rough to sit to eat and be squeezed gasping for air.

EDIT///Hey !!! Maybe that's where the "dingy" part in girls came from? {my wife had better never see this...}

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Postby xander » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:20 am

Montyphy wrote:Queen's English is a little different to proper english :wink:

Heh... I haven't seen that in a while. There is a Russian version, as well. I will have to see if I can dig that up...

And, just in case anyone thought otherwise, "fuck" really is a great word. We spent a week discussing it in one of my linguistics classes a while back. Our proffessor, a little old Hopi woman who studied with Chomsky at MIT, walks in one day and says "Fuck you all. There. Now that we have that out of the way, I would like to talk about the word 'fuck' today." One would never expect that to come out of her mouth, but there it was. :)

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Postby TheShifter » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:26 am

coolsi wrote:Brits? It's just the Irish, real countries have potty training! ;)


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Postby coolsi » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:51 pm

Sylph-DS wrote:
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coolsi wrote:Brits? It's just the Irish, real countries have potty training! ;)


lmao


Not only was that post fairly useless, it was also about a month late.


It was pretty funny though...
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Postby TheShifter » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:28 pm

It was funny and i only just saw it, and someone else was l8 as well because they posted on the same day as me (i think)

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Postby Babylon5 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:28 am

But their posts were relevant and had a point.
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Postby Azati Prime » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:27 am

Well we stopped calling them bathrooms since one would hope you aren't taking a bath in them.
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Postby Montyphy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:41 am

Azati Prime wrote:Well we stopped calling them bathrooms since one would hope you aren't taking a bath in them.


If that's your reasoning then explain why what you call football doesn't actually involve much foot and ball contact whereas soccer does.
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Postby Babylon5 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:46 am

Or a drive-thru (through?) you aren't actually driv- Oh.
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Postby shinygerbil » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:35 pm

I was going to suggest the word "cupboard". Except that nowadays it's "cubberd".

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