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Postby NeoThermic » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:52 am

xander wrote:
TomCat39 wrote:
xander wrote:
bert_the_turtle wrote:What is it aimed at? Belgium?

Belgium doesn't exist, silly. It is currently aimed at Canada.

xander


F*cking Hoser, we're a peace keeping country, we have no nukes. Why hate on us!!!! ;-p

Because you have a better health care system than my natal land. If I can't have good healthcare, then no one can!

xander


xander: You can have good healthcare. Just vote Obama on the 4th.

TomCat39: Canada is not a peace keeping country. You supplied the Birts with some plutonium so we could do our nuclear testing.


Anyway, we could all come to an agreement if we just aim xander's button of doom at France. No one will miss it.

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Postby xander » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:12 am

NeoThermic wrote:xander: You can have good healthcare. Just vote Obama on the 4th.

Don't kid yourself. My plan is to vote Obama, but I seriously doubt that it will have a major impact upon the healthcare system. Sometimes he says the right things, but he is really very centrist, and, when push comes to shove, probably will not push for anything that resembles socialized healthcare.

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Postby NeoThermic » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:15 am

xander wrote:
NeoThermic wrote:xander: You can have good healthcare. Just vote Obama on the 4th.

Don't kid yourself. My plan is to vote Obama, but I seriously doubt that it will have a major impact upon the healthcare system. Sometimes he says the right things, but he is really very centrist, and, when push comes to shove, probably will not push for anything that resembles socialized healthcare.

xander


I feel a bet coming on here.

One drink (of your choice up to... 15 GBP) at the next release party says that Obama will make an impact upon the healthcare system that moves great strides towards a socialised healthcare. (As in a percentage of Americans, percentage agreed by us two, have access to free healthcare).

Sound like a bet? :)

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Postby Ace Rimmer » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:17 am

I'd take that bet, but one thing will stop me; I'll never go overseas just for a release party ($$$$). :roll:
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Postby Pinky » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:24 am

I... might.
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Postby Feud » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:47 am

[stereotypical conservative rant]

We'll need universal health care to deal with all the injuries inflicted on innocent people by goons, crooks, and jack booted government thugs once Obama bans gun.

[/stereotypical conservative rant]


On another note...

I've registered for my last semester of college, and it looks like all the hard work and 18 credit schedules will pay off.

So long as I pass my classes this semester (not anticipating any problems there), it will mean that my last semester will be cleaning up the odds and ends:

*Fencing 101- Thought it might be fun.
*Sociology 102- Intro to Criminal Justice
*Sociology 205- Criminal Investigation
*Anthropology 101- Intro to Cultural Anthropology
*Spanish 101- Intro to Spanish
*General Studies 107- Computer Basics -> We must take an online course, this one covers such broad topics as (taken from the description) "How to delete files", "What is RAM", and "Identify the Keyboard". There are two tests, the combined scores of which must be 80%.

I will also have Fridays off, it will be awesome.
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Postby Xocrates » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:25 am

So... First day at the new job. Boss hasn't arrived yet. Nothing for me to do except trying to figure out how Mas OSX works :P

EDIT: 10 am, still no boss. But on the plus side I now have a Multiwinia approved desktop background.

EDIT2: yay! Boss arrived at 11 am \o/
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Postby Montyphy » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:12 pm

Ace Rimmer wrote:I'd take that bet, but one thing will stop me; I'll never go overseas just for a release party ($$$$). :roll:


Then don't visit just to go to a release party. Do what others did and make a holiday of it. See the sights and travel. I'm sure many of the UK peeps would even be willing to show you around.


Feud wrote:*Fencing 101- Thought it might be fun.
*Sociology 102- Intro to Criminal Justice
*Sociology 205- Criminal Investigation
*Anthropology 101- Intro to Cultural Anthropology
*Spanish 101- Intro to Spanish
*General Studies 107- Computer Basics -> We must take an online course, this one covers such broad topics as (taken from the description) "How to delete files", "What is RAM", and "Identify the Keyboard". There are two tests, the combined scores of which must be 80%.


I wish my final year at uni was that easy (as in, intro classes which don't rely heavily on things I learnt up to 3 years ago).

Autumn term (a term is 10 weeks long) I have:
CSW - Computer Science Writing
EMS - Embedded Systems
FSS - Formal Specification of Systems
NSC - Non-Standard Computation

Spring and Summer term I have:
AFG - Artificial Intelligence for Games
CGV - Computer Graphics and Visualisation
CGO - Code Generation and Optimisation
CRY - Crypto Attacks and Countermeasures

while, throughout the whole year I'm suppose to be working on my final year project which is entitled "A Computer Game Based on a Dynamic Vehicle Routing Problem"



And this is after having done:
First Year
ICM - Introduction to Computer Mathematics
ICS - Introduction to Computer Systems
IDD - Introduction to Digital Circuit Design
POP - Principles of Programming
CAR - Computer Architectures
DAD - Digital and Analogue Circuit Design
OPS - Operating Systems
MCS - Mathematics for Computer Science

Second Year
MSD - Modelling and System Design
TOC - Theory of Computation
CTS - Chips to Systems
TSP - Team Systems Project
MCP - Microcomputer Communications Project
LPA - Logic Programming and Artificial Intelligence
LSA - Lexical and Syntax Analysis of Programming Languages
NDS - Networks and Distributed Systems
RDQ - Relational Databases and Query Languages
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Postby Greeba » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:55 pm

That looks pretty similar to my degree modules at Manchester... and now I've forged a career out of setting fire to teddy bears. Funny old world.
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Postby MikeTheWookiee » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:14 pm

Heh, this year at university, I have Mondays, Tuesdays, AND Wednesdays off.:D Fridays are a bit of a bugger, what with wall-to-wall 9-6 and only half an hour off for lunch, but hey! 5-day weekend! Yes there is a project, but who really cares?

Since there is a post-your-courses thing going on, I may as well hop on:

'til February:
Power Systems Engineering - pretty tricky, to tell the truth.
Lighting 3 - actually the 2nd lighting course we do
Professional Engineering in Context - money, standards, planning, etc

Feb until June:
Electrical Energy Converters and Drives - motors and generators
Systems for Environmental Services - all sorts, like lifts, lightning protection, air con.
Control Theory - the 3rd such course in 2 years.

Not, of course, forgetting the Project of Doom, which lasts all the way through, entitled something like 'Influence of Shading upon the Photovoltaic Array' (can't quite remember right now, basically it involves a lot of going up onto the roof to gather data and measuring where the tall buildings they've just built are HINT - DIRECTLY TO THE BLOODY SOUTH).
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Postby Pox » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:34 pm

English exam, done.
I hope they were the last 3 deep-insightful-analytical-waffle essays I ever have to write.
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Postby Feud » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:16 pm

Montyphy wrote:I wish my final year at uni was that easy (as in, intro classes which don't rely heavily on things I learnt up to 3 years ago).


I basically skipped most of my first year classes, and went directly to second and third since they sounded more interesting. But those entry classes need to be done at some point...
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Postby xander » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:32 pm

NeoThermic wrote:One drink (of your choice up to... 15 GBP) at the next release party says that Obama will make an impact upon the healthcare system that moves great strides towards a socialised healthcare. (As in a percentage of Americans, percentage agreed by us two, have access to free healthcare).

Okay. Let's iron out the details. According to the CDC, 17% of adults under the age of 65 are without insurance, and 9% of children are without insurance. I would also like to find some numbers on the cost of insurance to those with private insurance (is it through work? how much do they pay in?) and the level of coverage (how much is covered? what kind of procedures?), but I don't have a lot of time right now to find those numbers. In order to feel that Obama had actually done something significant, I would want to see improvement in all categories -- more people with insurance, with better coverage, and at a price that is affordable to the poorest members of society. In terms of raw numbers, how about less than 10% of adults uninsured, and less than 5% of children uninsured?

And I will take single malt scotch. ;)

Feud wrote:[stereotypical conservative rant]

I'm sure you were joking, but think about something, for a moment. Right now, if you have health insurance, you are paying more than you would if everyone had some kind of coverage. Under the current system, people without insurance generally don't go to doctors for most things. Then, when small things get worse, they end up in the emergency room. This costs quite a bit of money -- much more than preventative care would have cost earlier. Because they cannot pay of the healthcare that they receive, and because hospitals have a moral and ethical obligation to treat first, and ask for insurance later, the cost of treating the poor is passed onto the rest of us in the form of higher insurance premiums, and more expensive healthcare. In the end, you pay less into the system if everyone is covered, because then everyone can get the preventative and maintenance care that they need.

One of the northeastern states (as I recall) recently set up a system where everyone was covered. In order to discourage abuse of the system (i.e. going into the doctor for frivolous reasons), minimal co-pays are a part of the system. People are less likely to take advantage of something that they have to pay for than something that is free. Thus, everyone has coverage, and for $20 (or whatever it was), they can see a doctor.

In a more general sense, there are certain things that are not really amenable to a free market. These are things that no single person can pay for, but which are necessary to the running of a modern society. Things like roads, utilities, schools, &c. As a society, it is to our benefit to make sure that we have a good education system, a functional transportation system (including mass transit), &c. These are things that a society should provide for itself for the common good, and that really need to be taken care of at a government level, because no private enterprise is going to be able to get the job done. I would argue that healthcare falls into the same category.


Feud wrote:*Fencing 101- Thought it might be fun.
*Sociology 102- Intro to Criminal Justice
*Sociology 205- Criminal Investigation
*Anthropology 101- Intro to Cultural Anthropology
*Spanish 101- Intro to Spanish
*General Studies 107- Computer Basics -> We must take an online course, this one covers such broad topics as (taken from the description) "How to delete files", "What is RAM", and "Identify the Keyboard". There are two tests, the combined scores of which must be 80%.

Have fun with the fencing. It is a great sport. Also, are you still in the Phoenix area? Are you at ASU? If so, you actually have a half-way decent fencing program down there. You should do alright.

As to the anthropology class, I would be interested to know who you are taking it from (assuming you are at ASU, and it is not being taught by a TA), and what texts you are using. And, if you need any help with it, let me know. While it should be pretty basic, easy stuff, I am always surprised by the stupid things that people say in ANTH 101 classes.

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Postby Feud » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:48 pm

The North Eastern State you are referring to is Massachusetts, whose Universal Medical System was setup under Gov. Mitt Romney. Actually, after several months (since about April actually) of pondering about it I reached the conclusion a couple months back that so long as it was financially sound and maintained a private medical sector I would be in favor of Universal Health Care. For example, if a doctor was required to serve X number of years before obtaining a private medical license.

I mentioned that on a gun forum the other day, I thought I was going to get shot...

xander wrote:As to the anthropology class, I would be interested to know who you are taking it from (assuming you are at ASU, and it is not being taught by a TA), and what texts you are using. And, if you need any help with it, let me know. While it should be pretty basic, easy stuff, I am always surprised by the stupid things that people say in ANTH 101 classes.


Actually, ASU dinked around too long and so I'm finishing up at BYU-Idaho. There isn't a text assigned yet, and it's being taught by one of my favorite professors. The guys name is Steven Smith, he has a Doctorate in Family Studies from Purdue and a habit of cursing, making fun of LDS culture, and telling off color jokes in class (he writes off complaints with "I'm working below my pay grade, if they fire me I'll just get a better job"). I'll let you know when I find out what book we're using, and ask if I need help. I'm guessing though that it will be a breeze.
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Postby ynbniar » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:10 pm

Ace Rimmer wrote:I'd take that bet, but one thing will stop me; I'll never go overseas just for a release party ($$$$). :roll:


Didn't you say you weren't bothered about leaving the USA at all?

MikeTheWookiee wrote:'til February:
Power Systems Engineering - pretty tricky, to tell the truth.
Lighting 3 - actually the 2nd lighting course we do
Professional Engineering in Context - money, standards, planning, etc

Feb until June:
Electrical Energy Converters and Drives - motors and generators
Systems for Environmental Services - all sorts, like lifts, lightning protection, air con.
Control Theory - the 3rd such course in 2 years.

Not, of course, forgetting the Project of Doom, which lasts all the way through, entitled something like 'Influence of Shading upon the Photovoltaic Array' (can't quite remember right now, basically it involves a lot of going up onto the roof to gather data and measuring where the tall buildings they've just built are HINT - DIRECTLY TO THE BLOODY SOUTH).


Hey sounds a lot like my degree...BEng Energy Engineering...

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