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Postby Cooper42 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:02 pm

Feud wrote:
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Blackbeard wrote:an obscure Source Mod called "Black Mesa" :? .

Obscure? This has been such a high-profile modding project that I wasn't aware there were still gamers unaware of this project. It's a full conversion mod that basically takes the original Half-Life to the Source engine, that fans (including myself) have been eagerly following for years. It's one of the most insanely professional mods I've seen, with a ridiculous amount of experience between their team members. Pure awesomeness awaits - and it's just two days away. :D

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So what's the difference between it and Half Life Source?
Half life Source is the assets of the original Half Life ported over to the source engine.

Black Mesa rebuilds all those assets from the ground up; new models and textures from everything from weapons to aliens to the level spaces. A remake rather than a port.
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Postby Cooper42 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:03 pm

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jelco wrote:It's one of the most insanely professional mods I've seen


You say that, but some of the voice acting sounds horrendous.
I'm hoping that they've changed so little of the voices that it should be an easy task to import the sound files from the "Hald life: Source" if you have it. Fingers crossed.
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Postby Jordy... » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:15 pm

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Postby RabidZombie » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:16 am

Cooper42 wrote:
microchip08 wrote:
jelco wrote:It's one of the most insanely professional mods I've seen


You say that, but some of the voice acting sounds horrendous.
I'm hoping that they've changed so little of the voices that it should be an easy task to import the sound files from the "Hald life: Source" if you have it. Fingers crossed.


From what I heard of the voice acting, we're going to have to start a new mod to update all of the voice assets in Black Mesa.

It will take over 8 years, suffer from feature creep, and end up remaking all of the game. Except Black Mesa Inbound. And will have terrible gun sounds.
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Postby zjoere » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:25 pm

I saw the campaign yesterday. it was a pretty funny movie even though it had its less funny moments.

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Postby Feud » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:44 pm

Xocrates wrote: there is a significant difference between Obama and Bush: Obama build bridges


In light of recent events, there's going to be a lot of people who aren't particularly concerned about whether Europe likes Obama's foreign policy right now.
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Postby Xocrates » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:51 pm

Feud wrote:In light of recent events, there's going to be a lot of people who aren't particularly concerned about whether Europe likes Obama's foreign policy right now.

You know, you should keep in mind that most of us have no ready access to what's going on in American Politics, so making a context-less post can be quite confusing.

I'm assuming you're talking about the embassy attack, but I have no idea what you actually mean.
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Postby Feud » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:00 pm

Xocrates wrote:I'm assuming you're talking about the embassy attack, but I have no idea what you actually mean.


Yep, should have been more clear on my part.

Three American embassies stormed in three days, four American diplomatic and security personal dead, including an Ambassador. Here, it's a big deal, and that's what I meant.
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Postby Xocrates » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:05 pm

That part I got, what I didn't get was what this was supposed to mean:
Feud wrote:In light of recent events, there's going to be a lot of people who aren't particularly concerned about whether Europe likes Obama's foreign policy right now.


Are you saying people are angry that Obama isn't more aggressive towards it? Are you agreeing with those people? Are you talking about something else?
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Postby Feud » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:27 pm

That a lot of American's will be less concerned with what other people think of our foreign policy, but rather whether the current policy has caused the problems, and whether it is responded to well.
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Postby ynbniar » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:33 pm

Feud wrote:That a lot of American's will be less concerned with what other people think of our foreign policy, but rather whether the current policy has caused the problems, and whether it is responded to well.


Forgive me I'm just going by general reports but I thought the violence was due to some anti-muslim film - I've not heard anything saying it is related to USA foreign policy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734

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Postby Feud » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:35 pm

Libya looks to be a coordinated attack. But, regardless, foreign reaction, and reaction to the reaction, to domestic policy is part of foreign policy.
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Postby Xocrates » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:14 pm

Feud wrote:Libya looks to be a coordinated attack.

By whom? Anyone other than the government of some country and it can be dismissed as a small extremist groups.

Feud wrote:But, regardless, foreign reaction, and reaction to the reaction, to domestic policy is part of foreign policy.

And has Obama made any major missteps on that front? From what I gathered he codemned the attacks, paid his respects to the dead, and tried to distance the US government from the movie, which is exactly what he was supposed to do. And given that the government of Lybia itself condemned the attacks there does not appear to be any reasons to place it on poor foreign policy and international relations.
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Postby Feud » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:59 pm

Xocrates wrote:By whom? Anyone other than the government of some country and it can be dismissed as a small extremist groups.


I haven't heard an exact whom yet. But, it was a three hour gun battle that covered at least three embassy buildings. Ambassador Stevens was killed after his building caught fire from RPG strikes. It wasn't just an angry crowd, it was someone who came to fight.

Xocrates wrote:And has Obama made any major missteps on that front? From what I gathered he codemned the attacks, paid his respects to the dead, and tried to distance the US government from the movie, which is exactly what he was supposed to do. And given that the government of Lybia itself condemned the attacks there does not appear to be any reasons to place it on poor foreign policy and international relations.


That depends on who you ask, many are saying that yes, he has made major missteps.

There's some controversy about how the video was handled: whether it should have been condemned at all and if so, was the condemnation equally leveled at the protestors? As for foreign policy, foreign policy is about more than just what governments due. Many feel that the protests are a result of his foreign policy choices over the last several years, and his response to such are foreign policy choices.

It's a much broader issue then what's happened this week, and what governments do. It's issues that cover years, and deal with not just governments, but how American policy is projected to the world.

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Basically: we were successfully attacked on Sept 11th, again, and an ambassador was killed. With Obama only attending less than 40% of his security briefings, and keeping up his campaign schedule, people aren't happy.
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Postby Xocrates » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:37 pm

Feud wrote:There's some controversy about how the video was handled: whether it should have been condemned at all and if so, was the condemnation equally leveled at the protestors?

Are people seriously arguing that an openly xenophobic film, which indirectly caused several deaths, shouldn't be condemned?

A more interesting questions is whether the condemnation should be equally leveled at the protesters. The political circumstances and cultural context surrounding the film and the protesters are massively different, it is much easier and much more viable to condemn the film than the protesters, who may feel a lot more justified in their anger than the movie producers.

Feud wrote:As for foreign policy, foreign policy is about more than just what governments due. Many feel that the protests are a result of his foreign policy choices over the last several years, and his response to such are foreign policy choices.

A valid point, although a bizarre position considering his predecessor and his possible successor.

Feud wrote:Basically: we were successfully attacked on Sept 11th, again, and an ambassador was killed. With Obama only attending less than 40% of his security briefings, and keeping up his campaign schedule, people aren't happy.

Again a valid point, and yet I still clearly recall the bush administration basically saying the London and Madrid attacks didn't count. It's hard to see how an attack on a foreign country, which the US has little control over, is somehow worse.

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