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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:36 pm
by P3ngu1n
I have already bought Darwinia, so i have no Steam CD-key. Is it still possible to play it over Steam?

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:44 pm
by Dave2
Steam is just a distribution system; you have exactly the same capabilities as someone who owns Darwinia via steam. Well, except for auto-patching.

Chris has also stated that this will continue to be the case in future.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:46 pm
by P3ngu1n
So how do i launch Darwinia over Steam? The only way i can find, is by inputting a CD-key, but as Darwinia has no CD-Key, this is not possible.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:14 pm
by Dave2
You can't. You're not missing out on anything by not using Steam.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:57 pm
by haydxn
I would also like to have it in my steam list.

This isn't just an aesthetic thing, or an organisational thing (ooh, all my games are there!), but there IS a benefit to having it registered in steam.

Whenever I rollback the state of my PC to a backup 'ghost' image, all my games are not installed. I don't have to hunt for CDs for the steam games - steam knows what games I own, and will download and install them for me automatically. HL2 and RDKF will automatically install themselves again, and I don't have to do anything, PLUS they'll be the latest versions and I won't have to mess around.

With Darwinia, I have to go into my storage and find the CD, then install it, then hunt for patches and so on. Not an ordeal I know, but steam users don't have to do it and I want that ability.

Shame.

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:19 pm
by Dave2
As I mentioned before, aside from the non-uniqueness of Darwinia boxes, Valve don't get any money for non-Steam purchases, so why would they allow IV to let people use their services for no financial gain?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:20 pm
by trickfred
haydxn wrote:I would also like to have it in my steam list.

This isn't just an aesthetic thing, or an organisational thing (ooh, all my games are there!), but there IS a benefit to having it registered in steam.

Whenever I rollback the state of my PC to a backup 'ghost' image, all my games are not installed. I don't have to hunt for CDs for the steam games - steam knows what games I own, and will download and install them for me automatically. HL2 and RDKF will automatically install themselves again, and I don't have to do anything, PLUS they'll be the latest versions and I won't have to mess around.

With Darwinia, I have to go into my storage and find the CD, then install it, then hunt for patches and so on. Not an ordeal I know, but steam users don't have to do it and I want that ability.

Shame.


It is what it is. Since Darwinia was not originally designed to require a CD-key, it is not possible to 'add' your CD version to Steam.

Nor would Valve/Steam want this, if you thought about it for half a second - why would Valve want to pay for the bandwidth necessary to upload the game to someone that didn't buy the game through them? Valve makes no money from sales outside of Steam, so even if Darwinia was designed with a CD-Key system from the get-go, I'd bet my C-3PO coffee cup that you still wouldn't be allowed to add your boxed version of Darwinia to Steam.

You can add store-bought CD-Keys from old versions of Half-Life, Blue Shift, and Half-Life 2 etc. to your Steam account because, guess what? They're still Valve games, and they still made money off the sales, whether or not you bought them through Steam or at your local game shop.

Edit: if I wasn't such a slow typist, I wouldn't be looking fairly redundant right now. Damn you Dave2!! *shakes fist*

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:29 pm
by haydxn
sure, i'm not trying to argue that valve owe me the right to have the steam version, i'm just pointing out that there IS something steam purchasers have that i'm missing out on. i'll make do with the cd version, i'd just really like to be able to have it in my steam list too.

and for the record, i'm a huge fan of steam! :) i think it's the future, and sod the lot of yer who moan about it ;)

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:45 am
by xbskid
I hate to say it, but just because you bought the retail Darwinia doesn't mean Valve owes you anything. If you're really bent on reinstalling your system for WHATEVER reason, then it's a simple matter of using WinRAR to compress your Darwinia folder, back that up, then when you're reinstalling all of your crap, just install Darwinia, then overwrite with your archive. I'm sure you have more than just Steam on your computer, so you'll be reinstalling multiple applications anyway.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:01 pm
by trickfred
xbskid wrote:...then when you're reinstalling all of your crap, just install Darwinia, then overwrite with your archive...


Not even that's really necessary. Just reinstall Windows, and leave Darwinia where it is - it'll still play once you're done. If you're formatting the drive, move the Darwinia directory to another partition, then move it back when you're done. All the installer does, really, is add shortcuts to your start menu, which any trained monkey can do themselves.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:34 pm
by xander
trickfred wrote:...which any trained monkey can do themselves.

Wow, trickfred, you are really into trained monkeys today. Is there something you aren't telling us?

xander

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:17 pm
by trickfred
...What can I say, monkeys amuse me. :D