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Postby Darksun » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:12 pm

Dave2 wrote:Basically, because copy protection just pisses people off and gets cracked almost instantly. The one copy protection system that kinda works is Starforce, but that is EVIL - it installs a driver.


Starforce isn't even that effective, there are cracks to make it think disk images are genuine disks, all you have to do is run the ISO off your HD (a little inconvinient if you have a small HD, but most warez monkies are prepared to do it)

So ultimatly, all it does is piss off end users (especially me who has endless trouble getting safedisk and securom to recognise that I have a valid disk in - I have 'incompatible hardware', apparantly. I often can't play the games without breaking the law.)
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Postby da_zeg » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:25 pm

Is using a no-cd crack for whatever reason when you OWN the original CD of the game actually illegal? I mean, it's never convienient to keep searching through piles of cd/dvds to find the right disk where a mini image on the HDD could take up only a few meg and allow you to play all your games without swapping disks all the time. Not to forget that a disk sitting safley in its box wont get scratched/warped/snapped/run over with a chair.
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Postby Dave2 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:37 pm

In the US it'd be illegal under the DMCA, I believe. In the EU, I'm not sure how the EUCD works.

I still do it regardless of legality (due to convenience and compatibility with WINE), though.
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Postby Darksun » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:05 am

In the UK it's a bit unclear for computer software, especially for computer software. For private, nonecommercial purposes USING a nocd crack wouldn't be illegal, but still on very shakey ground legally. It's also illegal to use one not in the course of business if it 'affects prejudicially the copyright owner' - so it would seem if you legally own the software it's not illegal to use a crack provided you don't distribute it.

You can read the act at http://www.jenkins-ip.com/patlaw/cdpa7.htm
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Postby Rkiver » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:37 am

lmb wrote:I bought 2 copies of darwinia today. (one for me and one for my brother)

And I selected euros as currency, because it would have been cheaper both in pounds and dollars.

I think Introversion have well deserved the money.


You actually selected to pay more just to support IV? That's equally commendable, and wtf?
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Postby Dev » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:48 am

Heh

If i wasnt a poor student id buy a copy for my brother

...come to think of it i dont have a brother =\
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Postby Luigi300 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:33 pm

Yeah, we seeded a fake Darwinia on Bittorrent. It's got the first level, but when you try to go to the second, it brings you to a "don't warez!" message and crashes.
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Postby Dev » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:01 pm

How'd you manage that? Replace the level 2 file with a doctored one or something else
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Postby xander » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:21 pm

Dev wrote:How'd you manage that? Replace the level 2 file with a doctored one or something else


Indeed. It is easy enough to alter the mission and map files, and IV created the fake version, so I assume it is only easier for them.

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Postby Dave2 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:19 pm

Luigi300 wrote:Yeah, we seeded a fake Darwinia on Bittorrent. It's got the first level, but when you try to go to the second, it brings you to a "don't warez!" message and crashes.

Crashes? No. Replacement level files for everything > Containment, and a replacement script for when you leave containment.
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Postby Dr4goN » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:08 pm

Luigi300 wrote:Yeah, we seeded a fake Darwinia on Bittorrent. It's got the first level, but when you try to go to the second, it brings you to a "don't warez!" message and crashes.

Hahahaha! I have normal not fake version of Darwinia, for God's sake. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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Postby andrewas » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:54 pm

Dragon, you are scum.
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Postby trickfred » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:58 pm

Dr4goN wrote:Hahahaha! I have normal not fake version of Darwinia, for God's sake. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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...How come this idiot hasn't been banned yet??
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Postby Rkiver » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:37 pm

How he got to be in any testing is another question.
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Postby xander » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:55 pm

Rkiver wrote:How he got to be in any testing is another question.


He applied and was made a tester before he admitted to warezing the game. I am suprised to see him still posting, though, I thought he had gone away.

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