Strategy First in Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection

[jim_the_coder]

We love you tom! Keep up the good work...I'll still be here in 2005, and I fully expect IV to be as well. cya

[chemman]

Love? Maybe that's too big a word. Highly sympathise would be better. (unless you really *love* tom....)

[randombob]

I think the best way of showing our sympathy is to buy a poster, or the full game once its finished. (including u beta2 guys)

[Mad_Big_Sausage]

Will there be a difference in shelf price to buying straight from you guys? Will we get any kind of loyalty discount?? I'm not proposing selling Darwinia for cost price, but a concession as little thank you for our support and most of all our love!

[elDiablo]

Will there be a difference in shelf price to buying straight from you guys? Will we get any kind of loyalty discount?? I'm not proposing selling Darwinia for cost price, but a concession as little thank you for our support and most of all our love!

Well, if Uplink sales are anything to go by, the Internet price went up when they started to sell the game in the high street. However, I found my HMV sold the game for £25.99, while online it was £19.99 =/

Phase2 testers get the game for free right?

[Starfyre]

Phase2 testers get the game for free right?

That is assuming they manage to uphold their quality of bug reporting shown in Phase one

[elDiablo]

That is assuming they manage to uphold their quality of bug reporting shown in Phase one

Indeed. However, technically, they get the whole game to test (being Phase2 and all). If they do a good job, I think it would be nice for Iv to send them a full signed copy

[Phydaux]

Cheman - I don't think you realise that Uplink was produced without funding from a previous game. Darwinia will be finished. You're too pessimistic.

That is assuming they manage to uphold their quality of bug reporting shown in Phase one

Indeed. However, technically, they get the whole game to test (being Phase2 and all). If they do a good job, I think it would be nice for Iv to send them a full signed copy

Phase 2 beta testers who complete the testing phase will receive a complimentary copy of the finished game.

*fingers crossed for being selected for phase 2*

[chemman]

Cheman - I don't think you realise that Uplink was produced without funding from a previous game. Darwinia will be finished. You're too pessimistic.

Oh yeah, I'm pessimistic. I'm damn pessimistic. Ya know, after living all my life in a forsaken country like this (not to mention details like the dramatical price boost of food, 2 times more than half a year ago, thanks to the UE) I think I have strong reasons to be a pessimist. After all, a pessimist can only have a nice suprise.

[Mad_Big_Sausage]

Oh yeah, I'm pessimistic. I'm damn pessimistic. Ya know, after living all my life in a forsaken country like this (not to mention details like the dramatical price boost of food, 2 times more than half a year ago, thanks to the UE) I think I have strong reasons to be a pessimist. After all, a pessimist can only have a nice suprise.

There is only so much you can complain about your country! You use it as an excuse for nearly everything you do that is considered "wrong" by other people's standards.

I'm not saying that I agree with those standards or that I disagreee, just that your country isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

I lived in Poland, out of a bag, for six months. In Krakow and Warszawa. 90% of the people I met were incredibly nice, prices there were significantly less than over here in Ireland. Dublin, where I live, is now considered the most expensive place in europe vs their GNP.

I know about the large gap between the rich and the poor, the "corrupt government" you always talk about and the rest. But in all my time there I never met a person who bitched about the country as much as you.

You can not use your country as a scapegoat for every situation.

As was stated above you are a pessimist.

[chemman]

Sure, there is no difference between Azerbaijan, Lichtenstein and the USA.

Right?

Well, there is.

Do you think people without food will pursue higher goals in life?
Can you not understand that people will better steal than die of hunger?

Of course, those examples are a bit too strong. Don't think that every Pole has those problems - only 30% Poles are unemployed, and only 10% have such problems.

I'm happy to know that you have been in Poland - when having the money, Poland is a beautiful place. Clean and full of forest, an ideal place to spend a summer, I say.

But.

When without money, Poland is quite a shitty place to live. Places like Warsaw and Kraków are places with lesser unemployment than the countryside, where, in some places, it might be 50%, 60%...95% (of course, those later are hard to find).

Thanks for saying that the people are nice, and the prices indeed were low. Don't compare that with the average Pole though (that is, one person earns 10000, 9 earn 100, average Pole earns 1090), but the normal Pole (100 in this example, the majority). I can't compare the prices though, never been there.

The funny thing here is that evbery year 60 000 Poles commit suicide. Shows how good our country is.

[Stewsburntmonkey]

Sure, there is no difference between Azerbaijan, Lichtenstein and the USA.

Right?

Well, there is.

Do you think people without food will pursue higher goals in life?
Can you not understand that people will better steal than die of hunger?

Even the US has big problems with hunger. . .

Of course, those examples are a bit too strong. Don't think that every Pole has those problems - only 30% Poles are unemployed, and only 10% have such problems.

Only 69.5% of working age Americans are employed. . .

The funny thing here is that evbery year 60 000 Poles commit suicide. Shows how good our country is.

Your number is way off. The suicide rate in Poland is generally measured at 5.5/100,000 people. And the number of suicides per year is generally just over 2,000.

[chemman]

Even the US has big problems with hunger. . .

Maybe it's bacause the US is a wee bit bigger?

Only 69.5% of working age Americans are employed. . .

When a Pole has no work, he is not given any money - no matter what. He has to live eating air and living under bridges. Is it so in the US?

Your number is way off. The suicide rate in Poland is generally measured at 5.5/100,000 people. And the number of suicides per year is generally just over 2,000.

That is the rate of SUCCESSFUL suicides, not suicide attempts. What I have given you is right. Just because someone fell down on a heap of hay instead of on a slab of concrete doesn't mean he didn't want to kill himself. Or that the knife one chose was dull&rusty, or that one rope was too thin...

[Stewsburntmonkey]

It is not suicide if you don't die. You "attempt suicide" if you fail to kill yourself; you only "commit suicide" if you actually die. The suicide rate in Poland is not that much worse than the US so things are not quite as bad as you might think.

[chemman]

Well then they attempt to comit a suicide.

In this case it doesn't matter very much, for all I wanted to show was how much Poles are desperate enough to try and kill themselves, not how much actually die.