Ace vs. Feud Round 3- Once More into the Breach

[Feud]

It has been a month since the last duel between the Universe's favorite hologram and America's favorite family tradition, and so once again Ace Rimmer and Feud met in a friendly game of nuclear holocaust.

Settings were standard, except population which was 200, and random territories. Ace received Asia, while I received Europe. What follows is my side of the story.

Since Ace knows my silo set up all too well, I set up a six pack along Norway and Sweden. I placed about half of my fleet at the gap between Africa and Asia, then divided the rest between the Russian and American northern passes, waiting to see if he tried anything tricky. Six subs went east along the Russian pass, and six went west along the NA pass.

Ace started by hitting me with bombers, knocking out my forward radar, but I believe I shot down most if not all of that wave. I promptly returned the favor. After that both sides seemed to deadlock on land based bomber attacks on the other's territory, while a occasional hits were inflicted, there didn't seem to be any major operations.

The battle quickly heated up along the Russian pass, as my fleets met his. Nukes were exchanged, and both sides settled into a series of tactical probes and withdrawals. I managed to bottle neck his subs, allowing myself enough time to get reinforcements to push against his main force, but I lost nearly half of my bombers in the process.

Meanwhile, me subs sailing west reached the strait and headed down. I parked them Just north of Japan, and waited. I knew that since his area was so much larger, I need to be sure to make every missile count, I couldn't hope for a double hit (city and installation).

Ace finally moved his fleet around Africa and crushed my Atlantic fleet. I managed to reroute reinforcements headed north back down, and caught his bombers before they could do too much.

Ace then opened up his silos, and to my disappointment only two were within sub range. I quickly blasted them, and unloaded my missiles on Japan, Korea, and China.

By the time his volley was over I had a sizable lead, and a full load of silos. I opened and launched to speed up the VT (Ace;s wife was feeling ill, so I can understand that he was distracted and wanting to wrap it up). The game finally ended with this result:



GG to Ace, he fought well and had me sweating the whole time. It was a lot closer then the score let's on, and were he not so distracted by the more important things in life, he probably would have won it.

[caranthir.pkk]

You were playing it risky, but Ace didn't come aggressively enough when he had the upper hand in the arctic and gave you time to reinforce and grind him down with fighters. Very defensive game

[Feud]

You were playing it risky, but Ace didn't come aggressively enough when he had the upper hand in the arctic and gave you time to reinforce and grind him down with fighters. Very defensive game

Basically, from the time of our first engagement up there, I spent the rest of the game waiting to be over run. Every time I tried to push he seemed to meet me with fighters and subs, so once the game ended I was surprised to find that there wasn't anything left up there.

Also, as Ace pointed out at the end, mixed fleets were used throughout the game (for better or for worse).

You are right though, I played a very risky game. Trying to juggle three choke points, all of which are out of immediate air cover from land, and none of which having enough ships to stop a full on assault was a HUGE gamble. I lucked out in that Ace broke up his forces, and that a battle pulse developed, allowing me to fall back and reload on aircraft from the mainland. If he had kept pushing I think I might have still sunk his surface ships, but the subs would have hit the Atlantic and scattered, and probably would have tipped the game.

[caranthir.pkk]

You were playing it risky, but Ace didn't come aggressively enough when he had the upper hand in the arctic and gave you time to reinforce and grind him down with fighters. Very defensive game

Basically, from the time of our first engagement up there, I spent the rest of the game waiting to be over run. Every time I tried to push he seemed to meet me with fighters and subs, so once the game ended I was surprised to find that there wasn't anything left up there.

As I said on server, there are a lot of different ways to play this one. I would've done the nuke dominance from the Indian. Both of you lost a lot of nukes on carriers; if Asia takes all of those nukes and drops them on your cities before you can get to them, you will have a hard time catching up Great game though, shows the possible depth of this game.

[Feud]

You were playing it risky, but Ace didn't come aggressively enough when he had the upper hand in the arctic and gave you time to reinforce and grind him down with fighters. Very defensive game

Basically, from the time of our first engagement up there, I spent the rest of the game waiting to be over run. Every time I tried to push he seemed to meet me with fighters and subs, so once the game ended I was surprised to find that there wasn't anything left up there.

As I said on server, there are a lot of different ways to play this one. I would've done the nuke dominance from the Indian. Both of you lost a lot of nukes on carriers; if Asia takes all of those nukes and drops them on your cities before you can get to them, you will have a hard time catching up Great game though, shows the possible depth of this game.

Indeed. Really, any mass attack from his navy would have crushed my defenses. Luckily, my "fancy smancy" tactics paid off.

That being said, were you in my place, how would you have set things up?

[Ace Rimmer]

heh, I must have got up six times during that game, but Feud did out play me either way. It was a pretty good game. I managed to find four subs above Russia and neutralized them, but with one depth charge, he took out six of mine!

After I figured out he had left southern Europe open, I sent four carriers around Africa for a back door attack on London, Only one bomber survived after I came back to find a fleet had come to meet my carriers.

Speaking of Americas favorite pastime, I do watch Family Feud on my lunch (benefit of being close to home). Great game show and the host is much better than any of the previous half dozen I'd say. (heh, Mr. Peterman, aka J. O'H.)

[Feud]

heh, I must have got up six times during that game, but Feud did out play me either way. It was a pretty good game. I managed to find four subs above Russia and neutralized them, but with one depth charge, he took out six of mine!

After I figured out he had left southern Europe open, I sent four carriers around Africa for a back door attack on London, Only one bomber survived after I came back to find a fleet had come to meet my carriers.

Speaking of Americas favorite pastime, I do watch Family Feud on my lunch (benefit of being close to home). Great game show and the host is much better than any of the previous half dozen I'd say. (heh, Mr. Peterman, aka J. O'H.)

You actually got five of my subs up there. I was most displeased.

As for the pastime, I actually meant things like feuds between in-laws, and the Hatfield/McCoy feud. But, that being said, Family Feud is a good show (it's not on though during my lunch break). The current host is MUCH better then Louie Anderson, that guy was terrible.

[caranthir.pkk]

You were playing it risky, but Ace didn't come aggressively enough when he had the upper hand in the arctic and gave you time to reinforce and grind him down with fighters. Very defensive game

Basically, from the time of our first engagement up there, I spent the rest of the game waiting to be over run. Every time I tried to push he seemed to meet me with fighters and subs, so once the game ended I was surprised to find that there wasn't anything left up there.

As I said on server, there are a lot of different ways to play this one. I would've done the nuke dominance from the Indian. Both of you lost a lot of nukes on carriers; if Asia takes all of those nukes and drops them on your cities before you can get to them, you will have a hard time catching up Great game though, shows the possible depth of this game.

Indeed. Really, any mass attack from his navy would have crushed my defenses. Luckily, my "fancy smancy" tactics paid off.

That being said, were you in my place, how would you have set things up?

Well, knowing Ace's tactic you played it perfectly I would've probably taken my carriers around Africa and send my battleships/subs through the Bering. The advantage of this is, you can scout in the Atlantic with fighters and run away if needed, and if you meet problems in the Bering area you can withdraw and get air-cover from your land-based fighters. You are likely to meet the majority of his force on one side and escape it, while boning him on the other side.
Whichever way usually in Europe vs Asia, Europe can not afford to play defensively, however this time it worked out quite well for you

[Feud]

Sounds like a good idea, maybe I'll try it next time.

[Ace Rimmer]

Basically, from the time of our first engagement up there, I spent the rest of the game waiting to be over run. Every time I tried to push he seemed to meet me with fighters and subs, so once the game ended I was surprised to find that there wasn't anything left up there.

That was part of the Holo Rimmer I do try to maximize every ship as best I can so I kept falling back to reload with fighters hoping to keep you out of those northern waters.

Also, as Ace pointed out at the end, mixed fleets were used throughout the game (for better or for worse).

You are right though, I played a very risky game. Trying to juggle three choke points, all of which are out of immediate air cover from land, and none of which having enough ships to stop a full on assault was a HUGE gamble. I lucked out in that Ace broke up his forces, and that a battle pulse developed, allowing me to fall back and reload on aircraft from the mainland. If he had kept pushing I think I might have still sunk his surface ships, but the subs would have hit the Atlantic and scattered, and probably would have tipped the game.

I keep telling myself in these 1v1 games to not split up my fleets and just go full force, crush the other's navy and then return and reload for a second round. What I end up doing is the opposite.

One of the reasons I didn't take advantage of the Indian is I was testing the waters (if you will) going above Russia. Partly to see how effective a sneak attack from there could be and partly to remove that advantage from Europe.

[Feud]

I do find it funny though how every spectator that joined would immediately say (after the usual hello) "whoa, this is a weird game/match".

Any ideas why?

[Ace Rimmer]

Probably the standoffish defense we were both playing, except for the couple of times where I ran into your navy and subsequently lost mine. You and your tactical nukes!

[Feud]

By the way, although it may not have been the best stratagy, I used a lot of tactical nukes against your aircraft. Since you had fighter defenses up most of the time it happened, I figured that I would lose my bombers anyway, and I might as well try to blow up a bomber or two!

[Ace Rimmer]

By the way, although it may not have been the best stratagy, I used a lot of tactical nukes against your aircraft. Since you had fighter defenses up most of the time it happened, I figured that I would lose my bombers anyway, and I might as well try to blow up a bomber or two!

Yeah, I cringed every time I saw your bombers heading into the path of mine. I tried to scatter as best I could, but you were successful most every time you tried it.

You had your way in Ace vs Feud 1, part Deux, and 33⅓, but number 4 is mine!

[Feud]

Yeah, I cringed every time I saw your bombers heading into the path of mine. I tried to scatter as best I could, but you were successful most every time you tried it.

You had your way in Ace vs Feud 1, part Deux, and 33⅓, but number 4 is mine!

I look forward to it!