Just a Game? Heh...

[Ace Rimmer]

Alright. It's Xocrates as Asia, xander as Africa, and I'm S. America.

xander is at a disadvantage because he's in the middle and probably knew that I'd target him first. If he did, he was right. I knew he'd be tough just from the way he posts on this forum.

I'm at a disadvantage because both of them know (or should if they've read anything I posted here) how I play.

Anyway, Defcon 4 arrives and I'm ready to go. I start seeing xander put units near my group of battleships and pull them back. It seemed they were stuck on his because I couldn't get the recalled fast enough. I notice that he starts placing most of his units in groups of two. I knew he'd send massive waves of fighters my way expecting massive waves of bombers from me so I launched fighters first, then massive bombers.

We played cat a mouse and, at least from my perspective, had a really good naval fight in the south Atlantic. He managed to wipe out my battleships, but not a single carrier. I tried to pull him towards my coast but he just wouldn't budge.

Here you can see pretty much the result of our clash in the Atlantic, my side that is.



Defcon 1 arrives and Xocrates starts hitting the eastern side of Africa. I take this opportunity to offer (genuine) assistance to xander and he agrees. We ally and I realize he can't see a single Asian unit. I had planned to launch my silos against Xocrates, but not having a line of sight made me change my mind. So, with a half baked backstab I send xander some bombers. He managed to spot it quickly and not much came of it.

At this point I think xander started using subs against a totally defenseless central America. When I was sure enough, I launched against xander aiming for his silos and bases, and then cities. He responded with a large contingent of bombers and hit me pretty hard. With me wiping out xanders defense and him hitting me with mine down, we stayed pretty low on the scoreboard the entire game. I actually managed to kill all four of his bases on the first try. They were suspiciously lined up against me near his west coast. It seems he wanted to be able to "feed" his Atlantic fleet fighters for as long as possible. Heh

Most of the game I was in the negative, but Xocrates waited to launch long enough to give me time to line up my carriers against his east coast. Moving from the Atlantic to the pacific is one long trek!

Here is me doing just that. I knew that the victory time wouldn't start until he launched, so I hurried to get there. I tried getting my subs past Africa, but for some reason xander wouldn't let them pass, found all six (or was it seven?) and depth charged them out of existence. I pleaded with him, but I'm sure that was a little revenge for what happened earlier.



In the end, I was able to get enough points off of Xocrates to claim second. I had a lot of fun, and xander taught me some important lessons. Hope everyone had fun. Next time will be different.

[Xocrates]

I noticed you didn't mention the part where you nuked yourself

As you can imagine, my side of the game was rather quieter. As the game starts I place my carriers and battleships in the Indian, except for two of each that get sub watch in the pacific. As defcon 4 arrives, it becomes evident that I'm the only one in the Indian.

Defcon 3 and 2 only had me scouting Africa.

5 minutes until defcon 1 (game minutes), I launch the bombers from my airfields over Russia, and as Defcon 1 arrives, I nuke Africa all the way to Adis Araba.

By this point, Ace and xander ally, and I start to believe I was going to die, when not soon after they break up.

I use my fleet to bomb southern africa and destroy several of xander's silos. Meanwhile Ace joins in and Africa becomes a radioactive wasteland (Poor xander, he didn't had a chance).

In the meantime, my subs lay waste to mexico and other minor central american cities. Not much later another group of my subs takes out Lima and other city, but I forget to place the subs in passive mode (I only launched two nukes from each) and Ace takes them out.

With xander dead, I start moving into the Atlantic, fighting survivors from xander's fleet just under south Africa.

Unsure of how safe the Atlantic was, I launch my bombers from under south Africa and order them North, hoping to pass through a safer area, they later bomb some cities in north S. Am.

The planning of this strike, along with the belief that the Asian coast was probably filled with subs (Even because that 4 sub fleet under S. Am had actually be engaged by me in the Indian, where I killed two of them), made me delay my silo launching (even because there weren't any particularly worthy target).

Then I just launched half my silos, which was when Ace attacked, and then the other half.

Good game guys, but I was kind of hoping for a challenge

[lukasbradley]

I bet if you guys rotated around and played this again and again, playing a true FFA, China would win every time.

Maybe if Africa put all their silos on Cairo (just to slow down the inevitable), and SA blitzed across the Pacific, it would be different. But I'm just thinking out loud... as long as typing counts as sound.

Interesting story, nonetheless.

[Angel of Death]

So you are all playing on the new patch? I have installed it on my (local) defcon account. But I am not sure if it will work with Steam yet. On the new patch you have 11 BS,Carriers and subs? Every time I try to start a game with the new patch no one is yet playing with it. Ace when do you play, I would like a game with you and Xander. I live in OKC OK so I,m on Central time.

[Ace Rimmer]

I noticed you didn't mention the part where you nuked yourself

Oh yeah, I actually took out my own base! D'oh! I was moving bombers from one to the other and forgot that if you don't click, drag, and drop they will go to launch mode and fire. I didn't notice till I saw the first explosion and tried to figure out where it came from. The blast hid the other nuke and it subsequently landed. Bye Bye base.

By this point, Ace and xander ally, and I start to believe I was going to die, when not soon after they break up.

You were, until I saw that he had no idea where anything of yours was and couldn't scout for me.

I bet if you guys rotated around and played this again and again, playing a true FFA, China would win every time.

I don't believe so. I'm sure I could win with Africa or S. America.

[xander]

From the beginning, I figured that I could only fight in one ocean. I had to either work against SA, or Asia. As SA was right there, I positioned my fleet against Ace. I actually filled the air with fighters because I didn't want to risk my bombers until a little later, and my airbases were lined up to feed the Atlantic fleet, so I figured I had tons of fighters to spare. I took out Ace's battleships as quickly as I could, and noticed that he had a bunch of subs near the equator in active mode. I filed that away for a bit.

Then, Ace offered to ally. From his posting on the boards, I took this as a genuine offer of help. Not five minute later, he was launching bombers against my carriers. Having half expected that, I had turned my cease-fire off long ago, and launched some fighters. This turned out to be a really bad idea for Ace, because attacking me gave Xocrates the chance to attack from the other side, and get all of the points. Meanwhile, now that I knew where his fleets were, I sent a fleet of subs north to take out Mexico City. They were almost in position when Mexico City started getting hit from the Pacific. Damn. Ace chose that moment to start launching, so I used my Atlantic subs to take out a couple of silos, and some cities. Didn't help much, but it was something.

While this was going on, I launched a bunch of bombers against Tehran and Bombay. Those are basically the only points I got in the game, but I wiped them both out. ;)

Then, Ace and Xocrates wiped me out with very well coordinated attacks from both sides. There really was nothing I could do to defend myself. It was rather depressing. I started moving some sub fleets into the Indian Ocean -- most of them made it, though I lost a few to Xocrates carriers. My goal was Tokyo and east Asia, but, again, someone else got there first. I managed to launch a few nukes at smaller cities when Xocrates launched, and got a few more points, but nothing major.

As I have said in the past, Africa is pretty much undefendable, which I still think is true. In default mode, you need to hit the enemy hard and fast, and I was unable to do that. Thus, unable to score points, and getting pwned the whole game, it did not turn out well for me. I will note, however, that I did manage to get 50 million kills, even without getting a single major city. If I had managed to get Mexico City early on, it would have been a closer game. ;)

xander

EDIT: AoD: There is a bug in 1.4.2 that gives you only 11 of each unit. That should be fixed in the next beta. Something about a floating point error. ;)

EDIT2: lukasbradley: It is not worth defending Cairo. Especially in a scoring mode where you get more points for kills that you lose for losses. Cairo is dead, no matter what you do. It isn't worth it. As Africa, you have to kill and kill fast. I didn't do that, so I lost. :)

[Ace Rimmer]

So you are all playing on the new patch?

Only for this game, that is unless there'll be a rematch...

Ace when do you play, I would like a game with you and Xander. I live in OKC OK so I,m on Central time.

I tend to play late at night/early morning. I'm Eastern time, so for you that would be 10:00pm-----> until I realize sleep is a necessary part of life I never play Friday night or Saturday morning/afternoon.

... and noticed that he had a bunch of subs near the equator in active mode. I filed that away for a bit.

I did that briefly knowing it was a risk, to see if you had any subs off of my coast there. After the first ping, I put them back on passive.

Then, Ace offered to ally. From his posting on the boards, I took this as a genuine offer of help. Not five minute later, he was launching bombers against my carriers.

Heh, I only offered assistance, which I found out I couldn't give. You should have asked for assurance of "no backstab"... That's the only time I take backstabbing off the table. It was a genuine alliance offer though.

[xander]

Then, Ace offered to ally. From his posting on the boards, I took this as a genuine offer of help. Not five minute later, he was launching bombers against my carriers.

Heh, I only offered assistance, which I found out I couldn't give. You should have asked for assurance of "no backstab"... :wink: That's the only time I take backstabbing off the table. It was a genuine alliance offer though.[/quote]
Oh, I expect backstabbing. But it worked out really poorly for you, didn't it. ;)

xander

[Ace Rimmer]

Then, Ace offered to ally. From his posting on the boards, I took this as a genuine offer of help. Not five minute later, he was launching bombers against my carriers.

Heh, I only offered assistance, which I found out I couldn't give. You should have asked for assurance of "no backstab"... That's the only time I take backstabbing off the table. It was a genuine alliance offer though.

Oh, I expect backstabbing. But it worked out really poorly for you, didn't it.

xander

fix'd

and yes, yes it did.