hooru vs Tom Busch-US [50:0] May 31st

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Postby Laika » Sat May 05, 2012 8:31 pm

hooru1 wrote:would anyone be interested in seeing screen recordings of me playing tom? i can record using fraps and play just fine (not much lag), and it will show mouse movements, screen movements, etc.

file sizes will be big and split up on youtube, so before i make one i was just wondering if anyone was interested in seeing just how easy and few clicks are required to beat tom (tom, u want to watch? :P)


I am interested.
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Postby Noryb » Sun May 06, 2012 12:08 am

-- Tobias -- wrote:In short, forget about cities until you have defeated his naval.


That advice isn't always applicable. Plenty of high-level games lack any sort of dramatic or conclusive naval clash. It's very dependent on the players and the territory setup. If anything, Tom is too focused on the conventional fight right not. I think he should do the opposite since, if we're being blunt, there won't be many games where he is going to win at sea. His best bet, especially with default populations, is to go full counter-value. He should just rack up as many points as possible and hope that hooru tries something a little too cute and messes up. It would really help if he put some effort into learning how to launch silos, didn't waste subs with predictable push attempts at defcon 3 and started using bombers to nuke cities instead of fighters.

Anyway, I'm pretty certain that, and any other advice offered in this thread, is going to fall on deaf ears.
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Postby hooru1 » Wed May 09, 2012 7:17 pm

37-0

tom has changed strategy. he now takes me head on and turtles turtles turtles! he spams fighters, retreats, and sends all of his nukes into the ocean.

very annoying. games are lasting much much longer, EU vs NA lasted 1:10 hours instead of the usual 20-25 minutes. also the score is much less close, because before, when he would go around the world, i would let him nuke my cities. now he is losing all of his nukes into the ocean or dying slowly by my fleet.

boo on you tom the turtle!
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 7:19 pm

Are you sure it's realTom and not fakeTom?
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Postby hooru1 » Wed May 09, 2012 7:22 pm

i think it is real tom... but he is like 10x better than regular tom
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Postby Laika » Wed May 09, 2012 7:47 pm

There were talks about faking Tom. It is not unlikely to happen.

Also, I'll just leave it here. :)

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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 7:50 pm

That was fakehooru.

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Postby tllotpfkamvpe » Wed May 09, 2012 7:56 pm

Just for the record, I'm not fake horuu.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 7:59 pm

Perhaps hooru should give Tom a secret phrase that he can say (private chat) to make sure it's really him. :P
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Postby hooru1 » Wed May 09, 2012 8:07 pm

private chat shows up in recordings sometimes :(

also if tom is in on the fakeness then he can give it out!

one more thing: this is the real tom for sure, or a very very good fake. he still does the useless fighter spam and fighter nuking, and very bad silo setups. so it is real tom
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 8:10 pm

hooru1 wrote:also if tom is in on the fakeness then he can give it out!

Haha, he doesn't stick around to talk enough to care. :wink:

I will have to watch the rec later.

Tom, if that was you, kudos on making it more difficult on hooru. :P

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Postby Laika » Wed May 09, 2012 8:10 pm

KeyID is the same, so looks like it's genuine Tom.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 8:11 pm

We need a litmus test to make sure it's not hooru getting worse; I propose hooru play regulars every 20 games, 1v1, just to make sure.
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Postby jon » Wed May 09, 2012 8:26 pm

There was a fake Tom, but hooru spotted it immediately. Very impressive.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Wed May 09, 2012 8:28 pm

To be fair, that fake Tom was about as good a fake as somebody pretending to be (MOR) and yelling "speed noob!" :P
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