Steam Users from the OLD Guard of Defcon

[Red Button]

Hey Friends, Who is using steam..

especially looking for the "old defcon guard"

If u do, please PM me ur nick, so I can add u It makes getting games together really a lot easier.

Red Button

[Jordy...]

I am, steam account name is LF4RD, add me.

[Prof.Falken]

h3^

[Jordy...]

that's your nick?

[ChemicalRascal]

You stalker you.

[Barbarossa]

Hey Friends, Who is using steam..

especially looking for the "old defcon guard"

If u do, please PM me ur nick, so I can add u It makes getting games together really a lot easier.

Red Button

I'm just curious, what is the benefit and the advantage to all this steam stuff? I understand from a marketing perspective Introversion needs to ride on the steam bandwagon but what is in it for the end user to use steam instead of PC client? Doesn't it simply overcomplicate things? If I purchase a steam account (for Defcon) is it interchangeable (the auth key) with a PC client and vice versa? Never used steam. I wondering what is the incentives of steam version that seems to have everyone enthralled with it.

[Montyphy]

If I purchase a steam account (for Defcon)

You don't purchase a Steam account, those are free. You purchase the game which gets associated to your account.

is it interchangeable (the auth key) with a PC client and vice versa?

No. Although auth keys bought from the IV store may work with the Steam version but that is not officially supported and rather pointless since you need to remember the auth key for any computer you plan to play on so you might as well use the vanilla client as it consumes less resources, plus Steam frequently changes the key so you may have to re-enter it regularly.

Never used steam. I wondering what is the incentives of steam version that seems to have everyone enthralled with it.

Steam games tend to be cheaper, and its news feed/alerts, game packs, and sales are a great way of finding new and old games to play. The games are listed in a consistent manor (with information, screenshots, trailers, and sometimes demos) for easy browsing. With Steam there is no messing about with auth keys or having to keep your installer executable somewhere safe. You just download the game from your Steam library and you can do that as many times as you like, on as many computers you like (albeit you have to have the Steam client installed and signed in, and can't have more than one session going at once). Your Steam library also provides you with the latest news pertaining to each game you own and any game you have installed will automatically update to the latest version/patch, which is all very convenient.

From a digital distribution point of view it is far easier to purchase and manage games from a single source than having to remember/create accounts with each and every developer website or webstore. There is also a feeling of security in Steam's success that you don't quite get with some of the less popular digital distributors or web-platforms.

From a social aspect, Steam chat allows you easily talk with gaming friends while in-game, meaning less reliance on third party applications for communication and a more slick user experience. Also Steam achievements (only applies to a subset of games) give incentive for completion of set goals adding more depth to a game while also providing a measure of your performance compared to the rest of the userbase.

[Jordy...]

I concur that steam games tend to be cheaper, they have some good sales always, not too much, but well, always something on sale, those are cheaper, but other then that they're pretty high, especially for a game without a disk, in EU you can get disk games for 35 euro I think, new games, modern titles that is, steam charges 50 euro, or sometimes even 60 euro.

[Montyphy]

I concur that steam games tend to be cheaper, they have some good sales always, not too much, but well, always something on sale, those are cheaper, but other then that they're pretty high, especially for a game without a disk, in EU you can get disk games for 35 euro I think, new games, modern titles that is, steam charges 50 euro, or sometimes even 60 euro.

I can't really speak for the big titles you're referring to as I tend to wait until they've been out for a while, but in the case of Introversion games, it is far cheaper to get them from Steam than the Introversion store (which may or may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it).

[Barbarossa]

I concur that steam games tend to be cheaper, they have some good sales always, not too much, but well, always something on sale, those are cheaper, but other then that they're pretty high, especially for a game without a disk, in EU you can get disk games for 35 euro I think, new games, modern titles that is, steam charges 50 euro, or sometimes even 60 euro.

I can't really speak for the big titles you're referring to as I tend to wait until they've been out for a while, but in the case of Introversion games, it is far cheaper to get them from Steam than the Introversion store (which may or may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it).

Well I guess steam has to make its big bucks somewhere.. for popular titles of mass appeal they have the luxury of demand and can afford to price-gouge and milk the gamers for what they think it is worth.. For them its all about profit margins. They are a company and not about trying to get people to have fun.

[Jordy...]

Well, not far more expensive, if it's not at sale, only 1,50 euro, but that means the must squeeze IV quite alot, espeically on sales, those damn bastards!

[Montyphy]

I concur that steam games tend to be cheaper, they have some good sales always, not too much, but well, always something on sale, those are cheaper, but other then that they're pretty high, especially for a game without a disk, in EU you can get disk games for 35 euro I think, new games, modern titles that is, steam charges 50 euro, or sometimes even 60 euro.

I can't really speak for the big titles you're referring to as I tend to wait until they've been out for a while, but in the case of Introversion games, it is far cheaper to get them from Steam than the Introversion store (which may or may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it).

Well I guess steam has to make its big bucks somewhere.. for popular titles of mass appeal they have the luxury of demand and can afford to price-gouge and milk the gamers for what they think it is worth.. For them its all about profit margins. They are a company and not about trying to get people to have fun.

Sorry, but how is that relevant to what I wrote? Sure you didn't mean to direct that at Jordy...?

Well, not far more expensive, if it's not at sale, only 1,50 euro, but that means the must squeeze IV quite alot, espeically on sales, those damn bastards!

Really? Steam has each IV game listed for £5.99 while the IV store has them for £10 each. That's a price difference of £4 (4.78EUR), making it ~40% cheaper. There was a point when that difference was far greater.

[Jordy...]

The I guess it's different for euros, cause I bought both, and for me DEFCON on steam is 10 euro, and on IV store 11,50 euro.

[Red Button]

The biggest advantage steam offers to me:

I can see, who of my non noob friends (ok, schubi is on my list as well.. but he is the excaption to the rule..) is online, and its easier and a lot quicker to get a 2 vs 2 or diplo running, with no noob in it. Dont get me wrong. U see me all the time in diplo on AKE but, every once in a while its just relaxing, to play a guy who knows what to do..

[Jordy...]

I'll soon move in to that list! trust me... altho soon tm