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CHEATING ACTION (??)

Postby Zorotama » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:25 am

I'm watching Why? vs Tom Busch..I think Tom needs to give us some reasons for that hiden action on subs.
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Postby Zorotama » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:41 am

In my opinion the game would be void.
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Re: CHEATING ACTION (??)

Postby trekdude31415 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:49 am

Zorotama wrote:I'm watching Why? vs Tom Busch..I think Tom needs to give us some reasons for that hiden action on subs.


what do you mean?
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Postby 47 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:00 am

WELL DUNNO WHAT TO SAY...LET BUTTON AND SCHUB WATCH THE REC AND DECIDE???
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Postby trekdude31415 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:04 am

what happened though?
I don't understand.
and i can't seem to get recordings to work and i don't have access to my computer right now to watch them wtih anyway. (can't isntal defcon on these computers)
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Postby Zorotama » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:11 am

Tom, give us some explanations please..
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Postby trekdude31415 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:13 am

Zorotama wrote:Tom, give us some explanations please..


no i wan't explination from you of what you mean by hidden subs.
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Postby 47 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:17 am

no i wan't explination from you of what you mean by hidden subs.


Bit hard to explain mate...but this happened

Why had 4 subs near africa... he kept them there for a long time and they never moved,,, after defcon 1 tom sends 2 bombers over africa with nuke armed... why had a carrier which was going up towards EU..he send fighters at Toms bombers... but instead of nuking the carrier TOM blind nukes the sea... and guess where both nukes fell.. right on top of those 4 subs that why had.. loosing 3..... so this is it...

now go watch recording and dont bother
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Postby Zorotama » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:24 am

Zorotama wrote:In my opinion the game would be void.


Obviously the game is valid cause Why? won but I'd like anyway a justification for that action.
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Postby trekdude31415 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:33 am

47 wrote:
no i wan't explination from you of what you mean by hidden subs.


Bit hard to explain mate...but this happened

Why had 4 subs near africa... he kept them there for a long time and they never moved,,, after defcon 1 tom sends 2 bombers over africa with nuke armed... why had a carrier which was going up towards EU..he send fighters at Toms bombers... but instead of nuking the carrier TOM blind nukes the sea... and guess where both nukes fell.. right on top of those 4 subs that why had.. loosing 3..... so this is it...

now go watch recording and dont bother


couldn't it jsut have been a good guess?
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Postby Why? » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:33 am

Yeah, it seemed suspect to me...

I've played a lot of great players, but I've never seen a blind-nuke like this... I had one carrier off France, near the subs, sitting still... I sent out 1 or 2 fighters from this carrier and he nuked the subs sitting 2 lengths behind it....like 20 game minutes later. I never moved the carrier... His bombers must have gotten right near the carrier, but launched way further...

I gotta watch the recording, but it was a little too good. I called him a cheater and, right away, a spectator left. Then, after he explained that it 'was a typical spot to hide subs', the spectator rejoined. We all know the spots, but this is not typical... not this precision. Someone with that much knowledge of the game, and anticipation, would play much differently than TOM does... and they'd still be hard-pressed to 'guess' where subs are when they're not within striking range.
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Postby julian » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:34 am

Everyone has blind nuked some subs and been blind nuked. Its shocking when it happens, but it does happen, its just the 1 out 100 casino luck. If Tom were cheating id expect him to be a better player haha. Sorry Tom.
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this accusation is just like WHY? Bullshit

Postby TOM BUSCH-US » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:37 am

After I explain my recollection I WANT AN APPOLOGY!

I had been in the process of naval nuking in several areas, I had a bunch of them doing different things. I sent 2 down there to try to find the carriers, while they were in route, I went to another part of the map to do something else, and the 2 bombers i sent had already fired without me directing them. i did not know there were even subs there until WHY? mentioned, let me repeat I was after the carrier/carriers send fighters to intercept. i am telling the truth. A little closer to cheating would be when some of WHY's bombers flew south from out of the screen. In fact I think WHY was nervous on how the game was going before that point. he probably resorted to cheating and accused me to cover it up. I fully expect you guys to take his side on this, because lately apparently I'm this weeks favored scapegoat whipping boy. But with this accusation this game has taken a new low. So therefore I want no part in the tourney from this moment further! By the way if I were cheating I would have made damn sure I won, which was exactly what I was poised to do before WHY? started whining like a school girl. By all means watch the recording!
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Postby Why? » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:41 am

julian wrote:Everyone has blind nuked some subs and been blind nuked. Its shocking when it happens, but it does happen, its just the 1 out 100 casino luck. If Tom were cheating id expect him to be a better player haha. Sorry Tom.


Yeah, you would think... but, obviously, I wasn't the only one who thought it was more than a coincidence!


I've played Julian in 1v1 at least 20 times. He knows how I play... I will play the same way, even when I know than he knows what I'm doing. Still, Julian has yet to do a blind nuke like that... It's just a tad suspect... Especially with a bunch of alias spectators...


Let's have a roll call for everyone who was spectating under an alias... I could be wrong, so let's see... Please, post your name and your KeyID.
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Postby Forrest Krunk » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:47 am

i was Danny Devito forgot my key off the top of my head, and only ONE p in Apology.

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