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Postby Mrmot » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:53 am

Baton101 wrote:GAME 117

Baton 115
Ace rimmer 8

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DOUBLE OUCH!!!

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Postby jon » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:25 pm

I suggest we dope-test Baton.

He has gone from good to thrashing Bosses in the last month.
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Postby Nightwatch » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:54 pm

Well, Baton beat us mostly in 1v1. Ace and i won against him twice in 2v2 yesterday.
I cant speak for the others, but in my view 1v1 is a tiny little bit different than 2v2. With no 1v1 training you can get in trouble very quickly.
I for one didnt play a serious 1v1 for many month if not years. I dunno when the last 1v1 tourney was (Ace Season 3 or something) but since then it was mostly 2v2 for me.
On top of that, Baton played us in "his" setups (EU vs Russia). He had a very good battle plan and forced us to fight on his terms.
I think i played in 3 times in a different setup (two times being Asia vs Russia) and lost only against the Star.

That being said however, Baton has come a long way. He plays disciplined and very aggressive, he knows what will happen in a game and its very hard to surprise him. Its unlikely that he ll get a win percentage good enough for boss status, but IMO, based on the displayed development he has earned it anyway.
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Postby (MOR) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:28 pm

Sorry Baton for the other night, and sorry to others.. I was without connection last days, I just came back
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:40 pm

I may relax the % required for Boss (for challengers) if he is over 60%, not sure yet. I will say that Baton is (obviously) the best challenger. :P
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Postby (MOR) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:58 pm

/ask promised stats
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:26 pm

It's still today. :P

Also, is the metaserver still down?
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Postby Baton101 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:07 pm

I challenge Zoros dog in public!

Already done it at least 5x in the game, you always refuse. (except 1 game we played like a month ago or more)

so take it like a man or run away like chicken ;)

as i played mostly eu-russia...and you are a boss dont be afriad to kill me properly.
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Postby rus|Mike » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:21 pm

I suggest to change "-> boss transition" requirements this way:

For 1v1s- 50%. If you win more then half vs "average boss", then you should be boss yourself.
For 2v2s- 33% (or may be 25%). Considering you are playing against 2 bosses with non-boss ally.

Then in percentages you measure progress to the target (from 0% to actual %) for both 1v1 and 2v2 and then count average of them. If that average exceeds 100% then a player is boss for the next tourney. Example:

Baton: 58.8% for 1v1, 33.3% for 2v2.

58.8% / 50% = 118% progress for 1v1; 33.3% / 33% = 101% progress for 2v2. Average = (118% + 101%) / 2 = 110% > 100% (i.e. currently qualifies for boss.
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Postby Nightwatch » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:34 pm

i'm off to vacation, no Defcon for me until next sunday at the earliest
dont do anything stupid while iam away and keep the tourney going until i come back
so glad that i wont see you all for the week :P
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Postby zoros dog » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:43 pm

baton we already played!
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Postby Baton101 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:25 pm

zoros dog wrote:baton we already played!


Thats denial.

Ok then.
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Postby Ace Rimmer » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:30 pm

zoros dog, on Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:30 pm wrote:game 4

zoros dog 99
baton 80

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Postby Ace Rimmer » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:18 pm

Perhaps you two should play a reversed set up. That's the standard rematch, correct?
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Postby rus|Mike » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:39 am

zoro's dog is on prematch, waiting for a challenger for 1v1 (Baton included).

EDIT:
Scratch that, nobody came, we left. May be retry in some time.

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